Re: Shared call-for-participants & Proposal

[Hong Phuc Dang <dhppat gmail com>]

Hi,

I would like give some feedback about your points Fred.

1. Translation: Fred are right. We can get a team of volunteers to do
the translation for us. I know many vietnamese IT students who would
love to participate in the translation project.

2. Visa: I think there will be no issue on the visa since I have
already checked with some agencies and Vietnam Immigration Department
as well. The guests can just get the tourist visa which allows them to
stay in Vietnam up to 30 days. During this period, they can attend the
conference. As you said, it is just like in FOSS event. We are not
breaking any rules. Anyway, it is very flexible in Vietnam. If you
"know someone", everything will be taken care of.

3. Organizing in Tet: Fred, I also agree with you on this point. It is
not a good idea to have the event during Tet. Vietnam culture is quite
similar to China.

About the venue, in case QTSC doesn't work out, there are still other
options available.

Hong Phuc

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Frederic Muller <fred beijinglug org> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm replying to what I know which is translation and Vietnam:
> 1. translation wise, can't you get a team of volunteers to do the translation as soon as they get the slides? Just force the (foreign) speakers to send those a week ahead. We did that in China for Linux Developer Symposium and Gnome.Asia and it worked quite well. All translators where FOSS community members (and had technical background) and we did the job in a few days (for free...). Can this model work as well in Vietnam?
>
> 2. For having worked in Vietnam and been there so many times (in the past) I believe a tourist visa should be ok to enter the country. Considering speakers will be staying at most 1 week, attending a 2 days conference about FOSS is not really breaking any rule nor does it go against the country security and policies. Is my view incorrect?
>
> 3. Organizing during Tet: this is really a cultural thing, but if we did that in China we'd be sure to have no one as everyone goes back to their families at that time (which is the Chinese New Year here...). Is it different in Vietnam? This is a one week holiday and I am surprised people would rather attend a dev conference instead of seeing their families.
>
> Thanks and looking forward to reading your perspective on those issues.
>
> Fred
>
> Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote:
>>
>> Come on Mario, be realistic.  First you say you do not want it at QTSC and then you do when RMIT said they cannot hold it at the time you want.  I am trying to work with you but you guys are not being realistic.
>> Do not forget who your audience is.  You are going to need more than a month to translate your presentations into Vietnamese.  Where will you find the translators?  Google DevFest was interesting but many developers left since they could not understand the presentations.
>>
>> Lastly, do not forget about the legal issues.  All presenters will need approval by the Vietnamese government.  Google and e27 Singapore followed all the regulations to hold their event.  You guys need to do the same thing.
>> Kevin
>>
>> Mario Behling wrote:
>>>
>>> Tony, will let us know within this week about the venue at Software
>>> City. We have to wait until he has confirmation. Then we know about
>>> the details.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mario
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Kevin Miller, Jr.
>>> <kevin miller saigonlinux com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We do not know, we do not have a venue yet.
>>>> RMIT Vietnam confirmed that they did not have the space to hold this
>>>> conference in November.  They recommend the week for Tet, the Vietnamese New
>>>> Year, since many of the students will no longer be in class.
>>>>
>>>> Tony is talking with the Quang Trung Software City.  I have no contacted the
>>>> two universities until QTSC gives a response.
>>>>
>>>> I am still trying to get into contact with the University of Technology
>>>> which held the Google DevFest last year.  They are working on another event
>>>> with e27 from Singapore now for October.
>>>>
>>>> We are doing the best we can here.
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>> Emily Chen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have updated the latest call-for-participants document based on Pockey's
>>>>> suggestion, I also merged the draft from Shane.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have made below changes:
>>>>> 1. This is not only call for talks, but call for lightning talks,
>>>>> exhibitions and hands-on lab
>>>>> 2. Explain who is our target audience
>>>>> 3. Add GNOME 3.0, School software to topic areas
>>>>> 4. Still waiting for the Theme to be decided
>>>>>
>>>>> Click here to view the latest call-for-participants:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AW0xSSV8T7asZGhqdGo4eF82MWhqamN6bWQ5&hl=en
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AW0xSSV8T7asZGhqdGo4eF82MWhqamN6bWQ5&hl=en>
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, I need to hear the opinion from Vietnam local team, especially on the
>>>>> exhibition and hands-on lab. Do you have such areas in the venue?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Emily
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/9/15 Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org
>>>>> <mailto:pockey beijinglug org>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Dear Emily,
>>>>>
>>>>>   A few suggestions on the call for participants:
>>>>>
>>>>>   maybe we should mention potential audiences so they have an idea
>>>>>   of who
>>>>>   they will speak to?
>>>>>
>>>>>   2) ask them to spread their words to other potential speakers in
>>>>>   any of
>>>>>   their local communities, even though they may not be the right
>>>>>   speaker,
>>>>>   they can help to look around, maybe we miss some communities in
>>>>>   Asia, so
>>>>>   the local can help us
>>>>>
>>>>>   Thanks,
>>>>>   Pockey
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 23:55 +0800, Emily Chen wrote:
>>>>>   > Hi all,
>>>>>   >
>>>>>   > I create those two docs and shared them in Google Doc, so
>>>>>   everyone can
>>>>>   > edit them now.
>>>>>   >
>>>>>   > Call for participants (2008 version, Mario will update it with
>>>>>   Summit
>>>>>   > 2009 content):
>>>>>   >
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AW0xSSV8T7asZGhqdGo4eF82MWhqamN6bWQ5&hl=en
>>>>>
>>>>>  <https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AW0xSSV8T7asZGhqdGo4eF82MWhqamN6bWQ5&hl=en>
>>>>>   >
>>>>>   > Proposal :
>>>>>   >
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AW0xSSV8T7asZGhqdGo4eF82MGY1dGdqZnhn&hl=en
>>>>>
>>>>>  <https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AW0xSSV8T7asZGhqdGo4eF82MGY1dGdqZnhn&hl=en>
>>>>>   >
>>>>>   > I suggest differnt people add comments using different color. How
>>>>>   > about it ?
>>>>>   >
>>>>>   > -Emily
>>>>>   >
>>>>>   >
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