Re: [Banshee-List] Banshee 2.6.1 won't update 4th generation iPod Shuffle

[Tom Williams <tomdkat comcast net>]

On 01/12/2014 01:50 PM, "Andrés G. Aragoneses" wrote:

On 12/01/14 22:43, Tom Williams wrote:

On 01/12/2014 01:35 PM, Tom Williams wrote:

On 01/11/2014 05:15 PM, "Andrés G. Aragoneses" wrote:

On 11/01/14 21:16, Tom Williams wrote:

On 01/11/2014 10:08 AM, "Andrés G. Aragoneses" wrote:

Hi Tom thanks for writing.

Banshee uses libgpod library to access Apple devices. Have you checkes
on libgpod's website if your device is 100% supported?

Thanks

Thanks for the reply!   I haven't checked libgpod's site, personally,
but the fact my iPod does work with a different Ubuntu system makes me

Define "different Ubuntu system"? What version of Ubuntu, what
architecture, what version of Banshee?

Both Ubuntu systems are 64-bit Ubuntu 13.10 systems.  Both have
Banshee 2.6.1 installed and both are using libgpod 4.3.2.  Today, I
tried a Linux Mint 16 (64-bit) system, which also has Banshee 2.6.1
and libgpod 4.3.2, and that's not able to update the iPod either.  
So, I tried my personal Ubuntu 13.10 system and now it's also behaving
like the other Ubuntu system, which originally had the problem
updating the iPod.

So, as of right now, I can't update my 4th gen iPod Shuffle using any
Linux system to which I have access:

Ubuntu 13.10 (64-bit)
Linux Mint 16 (64-bit)

all systems running Banshee 2.6.1 with libgpod 4.3.2.  

believe the iPod is supported.  I use Banshee on two different Ubuntu
systems.  Initially, I loaded some music on the iPod using iTunes on
Windows XP and I loaded the rest of the music using Banshee on an Ubuntu

I don't think you can happily mix WindowsXP sync and Ubuntu sync, you
have to decide which OS you are going to do the sync with, and stick
with it.

I started out using iTunes on Windows XP to load music and was able to
add music from either iTunes on Windows XP or on my main, personal
Ubuntu system without issue until recently.   Even on the Linux Mint
system I mentioned above, I was able to add music to the iPod.  So,
something must have gotten corrupted on the iPod.  If necessary, I can
reset the iPod and reload my music.  That won't be a problem.

system.  The Windows XP system was replaced with another Ubuntu system
and it's this new Ubuntu system I'm having the Banshee issue with.

I suppose I should generate a debug log on the working Ubuntu system for
comparison. Perhaps there might be a clue as to why one system works
with my iPod and the other doesn't.

Yes, but tell us the differences in versions first. And check the
libgpod's site first of all, just in case it gives us better clues there
too.

Right now, I have libgpod 4.3.2 installed on the Ubuntu systems and
I'll confirm if that's the latest version or not, with the libgpod
maintainers and I'll report back here.

Ok, it appears I've got libgpod 0.8.2 installed:

Version: 0.8.2-7ubuntu4

The latest version available from the libgpod maintainers is version
0.8.3.  Version 0.8.3 looks to be part of the next release of Ubuntu,
14.04 "Trusty Tar".

You could already download a 14.04 iso for a preview version and test.
Nevertheless, I have the feeling it won't help.

And I have the feeling that, if you reset your iPod, and you manage it
with Ubuntu without using WindowsXP at any time, then it will work.

Let us know!

Hi!  Well, I have an update on this problem. :)   I posted a message about this on the libgpod mailing list and got no responses.  So, I conducted a test. I have a Linux Mint 16 (64-bit) system on which I also run Banshee 2.6.1.  It can see the iPod ok and can play music on the iPod ok, but can't add music to the iPod.  So, I installed gtkpod.  gtkpod was able to see the iPod ok and I *was* able to add one track to the iPod ok.  After doing that, I *was* able to see and play that track on the iPod in Banshee 2.6.1, on the same Linux Mint system.   So, I tried adding another song to the iPod using Banshee 2.6.1 and couldn't.  So, I went back to gtkpod and WAS able to add the second track to the iPod.  I was able to see and play that new track, on the iPod, using Banshee just fine.

So, then I disconnected the iPod and connected it to my Ubuntu 13.10 system and was able to see both new tracks on the iPod in Banshee 2.6.1 just fine. I was able to play one of them just fine.  I WAS able to delete one of the tracks just fine, and the song count on the iPod changed accordingly.

So, it appears Banshee 2.6.1 can SEE tracks on my iPod ok and it can even delete from it ok but it just can't add tracks to it, while gtkpod can.

gtkpod also uses libgpod, so I'm not sure why gtkpod can add tracks to my iPod ok while Banshee can no longer do so.

Any ideas as to why this would be the case? 

On my Linux Mint system, I added gtkpod from the Mint repository, which is the same as the Ubuntu repository I believe.

Thanks!

Peace...

Tom

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