Re: Proposal for ConfigureRequest handling

[Marko Macek <Marko Macek gmx net>]

Dominik Vogt wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 04:29:35PM +0200, Marko Macek wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 04:00:52PM +0200, Marko Macek wrote:
> > >
> > > > No. What I'm saying that if a window manager supports NETWM hints, it
> > >
> > > should
> > >
> > > > MUST comply with this ICCCM rule about window positioning (at least for
> > > > NETWM compliant applications).
> > >
> > > Okay, how does the WM find out if an app is NETWM compliant?  The
> > > application could set a property indicating this on its top level
> > > windows.  That may be the better solution since it takes the
> > > workload off the app programmers and lets the window manager
> > > handle it.  On one hand it's much easier to do that in the WM
> > > (because it knows the size of the decorations) and on the other
> > > hand it's less error prone in the applications.
> >
> > I suggested (below) that NET_WM_PING is used for this. 
> > It is trivial to implement in the apps and must be registered in
> > WM_PROTOCOLS if supported. It also has no extra special semantics for window management.
>
>
> I somewhat doubt that Java/AWT is going to support the whole NETWM
> hints just to communicate a single property.

Where does it say they have to support everything?

They only have to implement NET_WM_PING.

My understanding is that most parts of the spec are optional.
That's why we have _NET_SUPPORTED and that's why NET_WM_PING
must be registered in WM_PROTOCOLS, etc...

I certainly don't plan to implement everything in icewm
(like scrollable desktop, etc...).

Mark