Re: issues for future version

["Matthias Clasen" <matthiasc poet de>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Havoc Pennington" <hp redhat com>
To: <Sasha_Vasko osca state mo us>
Cc: <wm-spec-list gnome org>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: issues for future version


>
> Sasha_Vasko osca state mo us writes:
> > Yes, IMHO window manager configuration is all that is needed here, but
> > since
> > there was such a strong demand for something along KEEP_ON_TOP lines, I
> > would
> > agree to yeld a little bit, and add hints. But not dictating hints, like
> >
> > TOPMOST_LAYER or BOTTOMMOST_LAYER, but instead something like
> > KEEP_HIGH_PROFILE/KEEP_LOW_PROFILE.
> >
> > Again I'm not a strong supporter of that stuff, just merely trying to
> > accomodate other's opinions, so I won't fight for that feature.
>
> I've don't remember the use-case for these hints. What sort of app
> should use them?
>
>
> Another thing we should have is a window presenting feature - GTK+ for
> example has a function gtk_window_present() which raises the window,
> focuses it, etc. This is really a bit broken to do in the toolkit, I
> think the window manager could do a better job.
>
> I'd suggest simply sending an empty client message to the window you
> want to present, _NET_PRESENT_WINDOW. Then the WM should do things
> like raise the window, focus it, and get it on the current workspace
> (by either flipping spaces or moving the window).  It's up to the WM
> exactly what it does.
>

How does "presentation" differ from the concept of "activation" that is
already part
of the spec ?

Matthias