Re: [Usability] "Input Methods" and "Insert Unicode Control Character" in context menus

[Todd Chambery <todd chambery gmail com>]

For what's its worth, I've filed a feature request:

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312600

Cheers,

Todd


On 8/3/05, Todd Chambery <todd chambery gmail com> wrote:
> It's not a case where having the menus means a loss of productivity on
> my part, but rather a recognition that for the vast majority of the
> English-speaking world (as evidenced by the lack of these menus on an
> American English MS Windows installation) these menus will never be
> used, and may rightly be called "clutter".
> 
> There are plenty of options on many menus that get little use, but the
> context menu is invoked frequently, so options included here should
> only be those immediately relevant to the situation or user.
> 
> I'm not suggesting they be removed from the system, or even turned off
> by default.  Just that there be a way to turn them off for those who
> will never use them.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Todd
> 
> On 8/3/05, Jan Morén <jan moren lucs lu se> wrote:
> > ons 2005-08-03 klockan 19:22 -0400 skrev Rodney Dawes:
> > > They are for text input using the keyboard. The fact that they are there
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > I would probably suggest just not using it, if you do not want to use it
> > > for now. Perhaps in the future, this could be an option in the Keyboard
> > > or Locale settings, though.
> >
> > If you don't have a separate input method handler like UIM, you will
> > want to have this in the context menu to set it on a per-input area
> > basis. You may want to write email in English sometimes, and in Thai (or
> > whatever) other times. You have perhaps one open spreadsheet in one
> > language and a different one in another. I switch between the different
> > Japanese input methods and western language all the time.
> >
> > Having to switch input method globally would be really, really
> > inconvenient.
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 15:59 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Todd Chambery wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 08:43:25 -0400
> > > > > From: Todd Chambery <todd chambery gmail com>
> > > > > To: usability gnome org
> > > > > Subject: [Usability] "Input Methods" and "Insert Unicode Control
> > > > >     Character" in context menus
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been using Gnome a while, and the "Input Methods"/"Insert Unicode
> > > > > Control Character" options that show up in every text entry context
> > > > > menu has always puzzled me.  I've never had a need to use them (they
> > > > > are "foreign" to a MS Windows user) and feel that they unnecessarily
> > > > > clutter the context menu.
> > > >
> > > > > Is there a way to turn off these context menu options?
> > > >
> > > > Not that I know of, but it may be possible.
> > > >
> > > > I believe they are for complex text input and developers insisted on
> > > > having them in an easy to find place, and techincal considerations trumped
> > > > usability cocerns.  I was under the impression that improvements to Pango
> > > > and the general text handling in Gnome might eventually allow these menu
> > > > items to be removed entirely.  Hopefully someone more expert can shed some
> > > > light on these and explain it better.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely
> > > >
> > > > Alan Horkan
> > > > http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/
> > > >
> > > >
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