Re: [Usability]sft+ctl+w v. ctl+q

[Breda McColgan <breda mccolgan sun com>]

Hello Ernst,

I have to disagree with you about finding an empty window irritating --
if it has taken the application some time to load, then I'd rather not
have to go through that pain again just because I have temporarily
closed all windows (I'm thinking of your Acrobat Reader example here).

I must admit that I like having both options: Ctrl + Q to quit the
application, and Ctrl + W to close a window -- there is less ambiguity
about what will happen in each case. I have no objection to an option
that allows you to close all windows; Ctrl + Shift + W seems like a
reasonable shortcut for this.

However, I can see your point about it being easy to accidentally quit
using Ctrl + Q. Having become used to this functionality now, I tend to
expect it and am irritated if it's not there. But perhaps I just need to
learn a better habit such as Ctrl + Shift + Q, which would be more
friendly to new users? (Or, at least, potentially less destructive!) 

Not sure what exactly you mean by "hotkey"? Is this something that must
be invoked using a mouse? If so, I think it's wise to have a keyboard
equivalent -- for accessibility reasons, as well as personal preference.

Just my tuppenceworth :)

Regards,
Breda.



Ernst De Ridder wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 10:09:46AM +0100, Roberto Rosselli Del Turco wrote:
> > bordoley msu edu wrote:
> > >Luis Villa <louie ximian com> said:
> > >
> > >
> > >>So, which is more correct- sft+ctl+w v. ctl+q? I've finally gotten used
> > >>to ctl+q nearly everywhere, but nautilus and now epiphany are using
> > >>shft+ctl+w. Do the usability people have an opinion? care one way or the
> > >>other? As a lowly user, it is beginning to irritate me that something
> > >>with effectively the same user-visible affect is different in some of
> > >>the core apps. But maybe I'm talking out of place :)
> > >>
> > >>Luis
> 
> Do we really need a ctrl-W for closing a window? Normally the window manager
> already has a hotkey for doing that.
> And using ctrl-Q for quitting doesn't really make me happy either; it's just
> to easy to type it accidentally. I would prefer something like shift-ctrl-Q.
> 
> As for the original question: Isn't it much more sensible to have a quit
> instead of close all windows? I find those programs that present the user
> with an empt window when the last window is closed (e.g. acrobat reader)
> rather irritating. I have a window to show a document in. When having
> nothing to show, I don't need a window.
> 
> Ernst
> 
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