Re: [slightly off-topic] Re: [Usability] HIG: Close button

["Andrew W. Nosenko" <awn bcs zp ua>]

David Adam Bordoley wrote:
: "Andrew W. Nosenko" wrote:
: >IMO, any windows (including dialog windows) should have way to close its
: >without "close window" icon from WM decoration. 
: >
: >Rationale: 
: >
: >1. Under X11 you can start application but don't start window manager at
: >   all.  (And I use this way from time to time).  Therefore, you will
: >   don't have "close" icon from WM.
: 
: I think it is pretty damn near impossible to expect gnome and its HIG to 
: work with any window manager that is broken. That is just not going to 
: happen and shouldn't. [1] Hence if an app sends wm-hints that a window 
: should have close buttons, minimize buttons etc. and the wm ignore those 
: hints the wm is broken and needs to be fixed.[2] 

Excuse me, but you don't read my posting carefully.  I'm say not about
"good" or "broken" WMs (in any meanings of these words).  I'm say about
working *without* WM at all.  And for avoid flame: this is *not* a
hypotetical example -- running without WM indeed used by me from time to
time.

-- 
Andrew W. Nosenko    (awn bcs zp ua)