Re: [Tracker] Context menu entry for Tags vanished (Enlightenment DE)

[Martyn Russell <martyn lanedo com>]

On 01/11/11 22:33, Benjamin Oppermann wrote:
> 2011/11/1 Martyn Russell<martyn lanedo com>:
> > On 29/10/11 17:04, Benjamin Oppermann wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > We should really update that repository.
> >
> > > https://launchpad.net/~tracker-team/+archive/tracker-unstable
>
> I agree. And you might also want to talk to Ubuntu, as the latest
> stable release in their repo is 0.6.95!
> Also I am confused now as to which is the latest from Tracker, because
> on the project page, 0.12.7 is available, while in the E-Mail you sent
> today (see attached below), you are announcing 0.10.34.
> Including 0.9.5., that makes 4 different versions of Tracker I've come
> across as an Ubuntu user trying to get Tracker installed ;-D

Allow me to clear that up.

All odd numbers are unstable releases (usually targeted for betas, so
0.7, 0.9, 0.11 and soon 0.13).

0.6 was the first stable version that Lanedo was involved in and it's
awful :)
0.8 was the second stable version but better.
0.10 is what we use on the Nokia n9 and that's why we still fix things
there.
0.12 is what we use in GNOME 3 and also the latest stable releases.

So the repository is quite behind regarding 0.9.5 and Tracker is
infinitely faster and better than that version today in the 0.12 versions.

> > >   "Tags" is just gone, no more extra line in the context menu, as gone
> > > are the tags i already created!
> > >   Could anyone please help me get it back?
> >
> > Presumably you mean they disappeared from the upgrade?
> > IF so, what version did you have installed before?
>
> Before I had 0.6.95, which is the version currently available in the
> default Ubuntu repos. It never started doing anything at all, there
> was no indexing and no search tool, and definitely no UI for tagging.

Yes, you must have a oooold operating system installed if you have 0.6.x
installed and I would recommend upgrading everything if that was the case.

> I found a thread in Ubuntuforums which recommended the 0.9.5 release
> from the unstable repo. It was only *after* that upgrade that the
> tagging utility first showed up, so no, it did not disappear from the
> upgrade. My previous version did not have it. I still haven't been
> able to determine *what* made it disappear, but it wasn't the upgrade.

Well, going from 0.6.x >>> 0.9.x is a huge difference. The database is
completely redesigned and the data stored in it is significantly richer.
There was no migration path from 0.6.x >>> 0.8.x or higher.

> > > If yes, is there another way to acces and edit the tags?
> >
> > Yes, tracker-tag --help is a non-UI way to approach tagging. Though if you
> > don't see them in nautilus file manager, I suspect they've been lost by the
> > upgrade. This depends on the version you upgraded from.
>
> I tried to use tracker-tag, but I couldn't wrap my head around it.
> However, the UI way seems so much faster and more convenient for me,
> as it eliminates the need to type filenames and re-type tags already
> in use.

Yea, it will be, this is really a command line tool to help you without
the simplicity of a UI.

- To list all tags:  tracker-tag -t
- To list all tags and files in those tags: tracker-tag -st
- To add a tag: tracker-tag -a TAGNAME FILE1 FILE2 ...
- To remove a tag: tracker-tag -d TAGNAME

Fairly straight forward. Perhaps the man page can help you further if
this doesn't.

> > >   Is the context menu created in the desktop environment
> > > (Enlightenment)? Or in the File manager application?
> >
> > Nautilus, the file manager. It's a plugin I/we wrote.
>
> So maybe in my current install (0.9.5), there's something wrong with
> either the plugin or the file manager. The search tool is there,
> indexing works, settings panel too - only the tagging utility comes
> and goes. However, Bodhi Linux has PCmanFM as a file manager, not
> Nautilus. Maybe that is what causes the problem?

Yes it will be indeed. The tracker plugin is written exclusively for
Nautilus.

> The tagging plugin was not present (or not visible) before the
> upgrade, so that wasn't what made it disappear.

It would only be available in Nautilus. If you didn't use it ever, then
I don't really know what happened there :)

> I am now trying to get the latest release of Tracker installed (0.12?
> 0.10.?) and hope that will solve the issue. Is there maybe a .deb file
> somewhere around? That would be just great!

Yea, we should do that (0.12).

> I tried to compile Tracker 0.12 from source, but I have unmet
> dependencies on my system: it requires glib 2.28, which won't compile
> on my machine either. Maybe an earlier version of Tracker will work
> with glib 2.27?

Sounds like you should upgrade your OS ;)

Typically, the version requirements are mentioned in the releases and
more often in major .0 releases. Take a look at the release notes to
figure when we changed things like glib versions (or use git blame
configure.ac).

-- 
Regards,
Martyn

Founder and CEO of Lanedo GmbH.