Re: [Tracker] Delaying release to end of weekend while I investigate...

[Laurent Aguerreche <laurent aguerreche free fr>]

Le dimanche 06 aoÃt 2006 Ã 13:43 +0100, Jamie McCracken a Ãcrit :
> Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote:
> >      >  - You *will* receive a lot of flak on this issue when you
> >     propose for
> >      > Gnome inclusion if mysql is inlined
> >
> >     Why?
> >
> >
> > Gut feeling. I think Tracker will be  a big issue no matter what. It 
> > obviously is competing with Beagle (I know that they are functionally 
> > different, but none the less they overlap), especially when Beagle 
> > metadata storage hits head. 
>
> more bloat for Beagle!
>
> btw the maintainer only decided to add metadata support when he realised 
> how much more powerful tracker was.
>
> Nevertheless we will always beat beagle in every single area (speed, 
> memory, disk space, non-bloatedness etc)
>
> In a straight fight tracker would win simply because it will work on any 
> machine that runs gnome (not just wrt memory but also portability - 
> beagle has problems on solaris)
>
> mono and Lucene are the wrong sort of technology for memory efficient 
> stuff - they cannot compete no matter how good they are.
>
> After all Novell is a pretty strong factor,
> > and Mono just became a more or less accepted dependency...
>
> not really - no existing modules may gain a mono dependency so nautilus 
> or other parts of gnome wont be able to be tied to Beagle directly.

Hum... Mono has been accepted as a gnome module...
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/devel-announce-list/2006-August/msg00000.html

> I expect a functionally equivalent C program to take precedence over a 
> mono one as well as it will no doubt be distributable by everyone.

Currently, Tracker misses something that makes me still use Beagle: it
doesn't index Evolution (or Kmail...) mails and IM logs (of Gaim for
instance)...

If I remember correctly, you want to add support for that in the next
version. How will you add that? It should be interesting to support it
as soon as possible to be able to say: "Tracker is as (or more) desktop
integrated than Beagle". Novell publicity is always based on that
statement, if Tracker provides the same integration, Beagle won't be
ever interesting!

> The resistance to beagle will be far far higher than tracker. Long 
> running apps like daemons and file managers in mono wont be allowed into 
> gnome.

I hope...



Laurent.