Re: modify library structure

[Steffen Heyne <steffen heyne gmail com>]

Hi Andrzej,

yes, multiple servers could be one solution and I'm already playing with 
that. But it seems to me somehow odd. Isn't some sort of structure the 
next question when you have a library at all?

From the development or coding point of view, is this really so 
complicated to get this into the upnp scheme?

I'm playing currently with many different upnp servers and it seems a 
general problem. Maybe there are servers out there and I'm only at the 
beginning of my evaluation... MiniDLNA, Rygel not, in Plex it seems one 
can define separate sub-libs and they show up a separate folders under 
music or videos. But the overall performance of plex for big libraries 
is very bad and it is also not fully open source. I've read about some 
config options of Mediatomb but I have to check this...


On the other hand I recently came across the LMS (logitechmediaserver) 
which is a completely separate system for the squeezeboxes (and its open 
source; I use LMS without any special hardware, only these software 
players like squeezelite). But it seems very configurable by lots of 
plugins and with that I was able for the first time to reflect on the 
"library-browser" what I wanted to have. It has even the possibillity to 
create "virtual" sub-libs by tags, artists etc. Also all this streaming 
services like spotify or soundcloud show up as a separate folder under 
"music". How this can be done with upnp? Wouldn't it be nice to have a 
upnp server which allows for all this plugins?

Initially my thought was there is a standard, open protocol upnp and all 
additional customization will be done in the (open source) software 
around it. I would also start hacking a bit and try to improve the 
situation, but currently it seems a have to understand more details of 
the upnp protocol to see it it fits my needs at all or where is the 
right starting point for such a project. But I'm still hoping :-)

steffen









On 23.05.2013 08:57, Andrzej Bieniek wrote:
> Hi Steffen,
>
> If you are ok with multiple servers, you can run multiple instances of
> rygel with  separate config files.
>
> Andrzej
>
> On 18 May 2013 14:51, "Steffen Heyne" <steffen heyne gmail com
> <mailto:steffen heyne gmail com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I'm using rygel for some months now and so far it works fine. Thanks
>     for all the work on rygel! I searched a while through all the
>     different available upnp servers for linux and rygel seems to me the
>     best one!
>
>     Now as all basic things are working, I'm looking for an easy
>     solution too organize our verly large music library. The problem I
>     have is how to organize very different types of music
>     with one media server.
>
>     For example I have my "standard" music lib for the most common
>     songs, but I also have a large directory with classical music, radio
>     recordings. Furthermore I also want all my family's music
>     organized in a central way. This means there is another "lib" with
>     children music, my wife has her prefered music in a directory and so on.
>
>     The problem with having all this in one media server is that whoever
>     browse the library have to scroll through hundreds of artists or
>     albums to find the right one. But all the music is already good
>     structured so I want this to be reflected in the main "directory"
>     (root container?) when I browse to my rygel server (e.g. with
>     bubbleupnp on android  tablet or phone, banshee, rhythmbox,...).
>
>     Ok, there is the "Files & Folders" entry but I want to use the tags
>     with artist, album etc to browse each sub-library, basically similar
>     to what is unser "music" now.
>
>     So what I would like to have is something like:
>
>     RYGEL/music/Album;All;Artist;__Genre;Year
>                /classical/Album;All;Artist;__Genre;Year
>                /kids/Album;All;Artist;Genre;__Year
>                /radio/Album;All;Artist;Genre;__Year
>
>
>     or like this:
>
>
>     RYGEL/music/music_all/Album;__All;Artist;Genre;Year
>                /music/classical/Album;All;__Artist;Genre;Year
>             ...
>
>
>     Best would be if for every seperate path I give in rygel.conf there
>     appears a seperate sub-library in the in the browser/tree.
>
>     My question is if there is an easy way to achive this? Or where I
>     have to start  if I have to modify rygel to get this? Do I have to
>     write an own root container? Is this possible at all or is the tree
>     structure fixed by the upnp standard?
>
>     How does the control points/browsers work with that? I mean e.g.
>     bubbleupnp (android) seems to show the full tree, rhytmbox as well,
>     but banshee seems to only show the "music" entry.
>
>     I'm not a developer, but I have some programming knowledge.
>
>     Thanks for your help!
>
>     steffen
>
>
>
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