Re: Fullscreen?

["Andy Green (林安廸)" <andy warmcat com>]

On 11/07/2011 07:28 PM, Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:01 AM, "Andy Green (林安廸)"<andy warmcat com>  wrote:

Hi -

Thanks for the reply.

> > However I am perplexed, why is the output of the rendering on the Rygel host
> > device at 1:1 source size?  There's no case that wants that is there?
>
>    Really? why?

If it's hooked up to a big TV (my case), there is no value in sitting on 
the sofa with a 'remote control' to start the playback -- and that is 
working -- and then getting up to hit F11 on a physical keyboard to make 
it scale to fill the display.

If it's sharing your working desktop, you won't be starting it by remote 
control and using it in a corner.

There's no value I could think of starting it small at all, if you 
arrived at a use-case that needs it I'd be happy to get my mind 
broadened.  Otherwise, I suggest it should be changed to always start 
fullscreen, it seems like a one-liner.

> > I eyeballed the code and it seems it should go fullscreen at F11, but it
> > does not.
>
>    Assuming you are pressing F11 at rygel's video window, yes it seems
> like a bug and I encourage you to file it.

I think the bug is about starting small at all, as mentioned above 
physical F11 on renderer keyboard shouldn't feature in the flow for 
typical user sitting on a sofa by DLNA controller and selecting 
something to watch.

> >   I can double-click the windowmanager title frame and maximize
> > that window, but Gnome3 titlebar and windowmanager titlebar are there (and
> > since there are no corresponding black bars on the sides, I assume the video
> > is distorted slightly).
>
>    Yeah, that is not exactly fullscreen mode. However, Rygel doesn't do
> any smart scalling/aspec-ratio-conversion or anything but leave it to
> gstreamer's playbin so for any issues regarding distortion belong on
> that layer.

The aspect distortion will probably be OK if it is told to do "real 
fullscreen", since it'll scale the window to really take the full 
screen.  I was just explaining why maximizing isn't a workaround.

> > So... what am I missing?  Why isn't the video defaulting to fullscreen
>
>    Its not always easy to know if thats what user wants. Not all media
> players start the video in fullscreen mode by default.
>
> > as a distant second able to be forced to fullscreen by keypress?
>
>    Don't think there is any way through UPnP to do that. Haven't really
> checked if DLNA adds that.
>
> > A lot of work has gone into Rygel I can't imagine it is because nobody is
> > really using it.
>
>   You are correct that a lot of people use it and its still being
> maintained/developed but very few people use it as media renderer
> AFAIK. Most people use it as a media server. BTW, Rygel has support
> for MPRIS2 and any player that supports that is exposed as media
> renderer by Rygel so you might want to explore that option. Adding
> that support to totem is somewhere on my todo list.

OK but it does do media rendering and it does show signs of doing it 
well actually, since it wisely decided to leverage all the gstreamer work.

It just needs to revisit the idea that it should start small.  I don't 
think there is actually a use-case that wants that, every use-case I can 
think of wants the media rendered across the whole display surface at 
all times after the user indicated he wants to see something.

If there is a valid reason for it to start small in some cases, there 
definitely are cases where you want it fullscreen, seems it should be a 
config option then?

-Andy