Re: Evolution thoughts for GNOME 3.0

["P Chenthill" <pchenthill novell com>]

On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 20:54 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Hi Srini & Chen,
> 
> Am Samstag, den 20.06.2009, 12:04 +0530 schrieb Chenthill:
> > But we also need to consider some patches which have added API and some
> > string changes. There might not be many UI changes, but still there
> > might be some useful ones. I don have the entire list now as we have not
> > discussed/looked over them yet. I have not yet got the GSoc EDS
> > optimization patches, but if I can get them over soon and if its good
> > enough I would love to push them to stable branch along with calendar
> > cache rewrite (http://www.go-evolution.org/Evo2.28) (quoting one case).
> > 
> > Thinking about the freezes API/ABI/Feature freezes coming along in a
> > months time. What about branching for gnome-2-27 immediately after that
> > and starting to merge the kill bonobo stuffs ? This would mean we will
> > not need to think about the merging important patches with freeze breaks
> > into stable. So instead of 9 months we would have 8 months.
> 
> Chen has good points here.
> And Evolution branching early for gnome-2-28 (e.g. when the first
> freezes start) sounds like the best plan to me.
> I just like to ask the Evolution team to please decide on their schedule
> plans early and to communicate them properly so every developers knows
> (as it might be good to be conservative with committing bigger changes
> to master if everybody knows that branching for gnome-2-28 will happen
> "soon". People can wait and commit the bigger changes to master after
> branching for gnome-2-28.)
We would be discussing this in #evolution-meet on Wednesday and mail
across the plans to e-h list.


Thanks, Chenthill.
> 
> Am Donnerstag, den 18.06.2009, 08:09 +0530 schrieb Srinivasa Ragavan:
> > > I still have not found out when and why libgnomecanvas was
> > > deprecated by the release-team. Maybe someone remembers?
> > I really need the migration path/future plans for this. It will be one
> > thing, that touches every bit of Evolution. Message list, calendar view,
> > addressbook etc.. everything uses GNOME Canvas. I would be happy to
> > continue with gnome-canvas, if possible. 
> 
> Still waiting for release-team members with a better knowledge of
> history (Kjartan maybe?) that can explain the decision to deprecate
> libgnomecanvas.
> 
> I see two options: 
>       * Keep libgnomecanvas deprecated in GNOME 3 and hence allow
>         Evolution 3 to use it. 
>       * Have libgnomecanvas removed in GNOME 3 and Evolution include it.
> Also see http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571742#c6 .
> 
> Because of the complexity of this task I currently favor option 1.
> IMO definitely give libgnomecanvas the lowest priority in cleaning up
> the Evolution deps/code.
> 
> Other opinions? Silence means I will bring this up at the GUADEC r-t
> meeting anyway. ;-)
> 
> 
> andre