Re: [orca-list] The LibreOffice's low accessibility



Hello,

and how is Libreoffice accessible in other platforms? I don't want to go away from linux, but I would like to know, is it accessible in others? If yes, it wouldn't be impossible to make it more accessible on linux too.

Thanks and take care, Vojta.

Dne 14. 01. 22 v 21:44 Devin Prater via orca-list napsal(a):
Yep, at my job, we wanted to make a form in LibreOffice, and I could not figure out how to do this. It's really frustrating.
Devin Prater
r d t prater gmail com <mailto:r d t prater gmail com>




On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 1:57 PM Jean-Philippe MENGUAL via orca-list <orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>> wrote:

    Hi,
    Le 14/01/2022 à 20:11, Vsevolod Popov via orca-list a écrit :
     > Hello everyone.
     > Recently, Jean-Philippe Mengual mentioned that LibreOffice has low
     > accessibility.
     > Could you please explain what software from it's collection has
     > accessibility issues and what are they?

    To sum up, I would say that the graphical interfae is globally
    accessible, even if things could be improved in programs such as
    Impress
    and Calc. However some features are now difficult to use, LO
    experiences
    some crashes due probably to its interaction with accessibility layer,
    and some advanced features are not quite accessible. Finally, and
    probably the most difficult, in the documents in Writer, while you have
    an access to text, head and fotpage, you don't have an easy access to
    footnote except via the flat review. Access to comments is terrible.
    Access to the collaborative marks is hard. Access to the objects
    such as
    images or insertion of objects is not there. Accessibility in a complex
    document with frames and sections is difficult too. But tables work
    fine. Spell checking works more or less, even if the mispelling is only
    announced if you have the caret on the mispelled word. The dialog has
    improved but still improvements to be done.


     > The reason why I am asking is that I want to switch as completely as
     > possible from Windows to Linux and use LibreOffice Writer for
    working
     > with documents.

    You can, I do everyday.

     > Are these things like formatting the documents with styles
    accessible
     > like we do in MS Word?

    Styles is the most frustrating feature I know in LO. Because it has
    been
    accessible until 4.2 and experienced a big regression since then.
    Today,
    for basic styles title 1 to 3, a submenu in Format makes this possible.
    But to tweak styles in details, I consider it is a pain. The dialog to
    handle numbering of chaptiers is hard too. The same for the Charachters
    dialog.

    The problem comes if you havae advanced needs. However, flat review and
    some experience enables you to workaround many accessibility problems,
    but it is not always straightford.

     > Creating contents, headings all that things with documents?

    It is easy until level 3, but after it, it requires a lot of additional
    things to do

    Regards

     > What accessibility issues can be found?
     > Thank you for any help.
     > --
     > regards,
     > Vsevolod
     > https://github.com/sevapopov2/ <https://github.com/sevapopov2/>
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