Re: [orca-list] The LibreOffice's low accessibility

[Vojtech šmiro <vsmiro seznam cz>]

Hello,

and how is Libreoffice accessible in other platforms? I don't want to go 
away from linux, but I would like to know, is it accessible in others? 
If yes, it wouldn't be impossible to make it more accessible on linux too.

Thanks and take care, Vojta.

Dne 14. 01. 22 v 21:44 Devin Prater via orca-list napsal(a):
> Yep, at my job, we wanted to make a form in LibreOffice, and I could not 
> figure out how to do this. It's really frustrating.
> Devin Prater
> r d t prater gmail com <mailto:r d t prater gmail com>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 1:57 PM Jean-Philippe MENGUAL via orca-list 
> <orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>     Le 14/01/2022 à 20:11, Vsevolod Popov via orca-list a écrit :
>      > Hello everyone.
>      > Recently, Jean-Philippe Mengual mentioned that LibreOffice has low
>      > accessibility.
>      > Could you please explain what software from it's collection has
>      > accessibility issues and what are they?
>
>     To sum up, I would say that the graphical interfae is globally
>     accessible, even if things could be improved in programs such as
>     Impress
>     and Calc. However some features are now difficult to use, LO
>     experiences
>     some crashes due probably to its interaction with accessibility layer,
>     and some advanced features are not quite accessible. Finally, and
>     probably the most difficult, in the documents in Writer, while you have
>     an access to text, head and fotpage, you don't have an easy access to
>     footnote except via the flat review. Access to comments is terrible.
>     Access to the collaborative marks is hard. Access to the objects
>     such as
>     images or insertion of objects is not there. Accessibility in a complex
>     document with frames and sections is difficult too. But tables work
>     fine. Spell checking works more or less, even if the mispelling is only
>     announced if you have the caret on the mispelled word. The dialog has
>     improved but still improvements to be done.
>
>
>      > The reason why I am asking is that I want to switch as completely as
>      > possible from Windows to Linux and use LibreOffice Writer for
>     working
>      > with documents.
>
>     You can, I do everyday.
>
>      > Are these things like formatting the documents with styles
>     accessible
>      > like we do in MS Word?
>
>     Styles is the most frustrating feature I know in LO. Because it has
>     been
>     accessible until 4.2 and experienced a big regression since then.
>     Today,
>     for basic styles title 1 to 3, a submenu in Format makes this possible.
>     But to tweak styles in details, I consider it is a pain. The dialog to
>     handle numbering of chaptiers is hard too. The same for the Charachters
>     dialog.
>
>     The problem comes if you havae advanced needs. However, flat review and
>     some experience enables you to workaround many accessibility problems,
>     but it is not always straightford.
>
>      > Creating contents, headings all that things with documents?
>
>     It is easy until level 3, but after it, it requires a lot of additional
>     things to do
>
>     Regards
>
>      > What accessibility issues can be found?
>      > Thank you for any help.
>      > --
>      > regards,
>      > Vsevolod
>      > https://github.com/sevapopov2/ <https://github.com/sevapopov2/>
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