Re: [orca-list] bug : orca announces content before type

[Jérémy Prego <jeremy pregonetwork net>]

for info, here is a debug showing the problem
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m5i8wo5vvjq7qrh/debug-2022-01-08-13%3A16%3A51.out?dl=1

I think I'm going to redo my configuration, even if recreate all my 
keyboard shortcuts discourages me a little :)

Jerem
Le 08/01/2022 à 12:46, Jérémy Prego via orca-list a écrit :
> hey joanie,
>
> I'm sorry, by doing like you -u / tmp / toto, I'm not reproducing the 
> concern either ... my apologies!
>
> now, it remains to find out which parameter changes that between the 
> two commits.
>
> if I really can't find it, I'll send a debug.out to get some help :)
>
> thanks again, and sorry for the time lost!
>
> Jerem
> Le 08/01/2022 à 12:20, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > Hey again Jerem.
> >
> > I just tried your steps to reproduce the issue using pidgin. Orca
> > master for me says "read only text" first and then presents the line of
> > text. In order to be sure that my personal settings weren't to blame, I
> > launched Orca with
> >
> > -u /tmp/foo
> >
> > I still get "read only text" first. So a debug.out from before the
> > commit in question and one from after would be helpful.
> >
> > Sorry and thanks again!
> > --joanie
> >
> > On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 21:42 +0100, Jérémy Prego via orca-list wrote:
> > > hey joanie
> > >
> > > I propose to take another example, more easily reproducible with a
> > > longer type.
> > >
> > > 1. Send a message in a conversation on pidgin
> > > 2. Press f6 to get to the message history area
> > >
> > > from commit 38acd26f
> > > orca says: "(21:00:00) joanie: Hello Jerem. read only text"
> > > Before the 38acd26f commit:
> > > orca says: "read only text. (21:00:00) joanie: Hello Jerem."
> > >
> > > hope that helps
> > >
> > > PS: I just noticed that I have a problem in my old version of
> > > thunderbird (52.9.1) when writing a message, I will send an email for
> > > this specific problem or respond in the existing thread :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Jerem
> > > Le 07/01/2022 à 21:13, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > > > Hey again Jerem.
> > > >
> > > > I guess I need more concrete steps to understand and reproduce the
> > > > problem. By default (e.g. when navigating within pluma) the "text"
> > > > role
> > > > is not spoken. So you need something like a focus event. Therefore
> > > > what
> > > > I did is create a new document with "Hello world" in pluma. Then I
> > > > alt+tabbed out and back in. Orca spoke "text. hello world" with the
> > > > current master as well as with the gnome-41 branch.
> > > >
> > > > If you could write out a numbered list of steps, the exact spoken
> > > > expected results, the exact actual spoken results, etc., it would
> > > > be
> > > > helpful. Thanks again!
> > > > --joanie
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 19:57 +0100, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > Hey Jerem. Thanks for the report! I'll try to address that this
> > > > > weekend.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for the commit messages, that's on purpose. I wouldn't want
> > > > > you to
> > > > > think a regression is a feature. <grins>
> > > > >
> > > > > The language switching support is taking a lot of plumbing
> > > > > changes
> > > > > because most of Orca's code assumes that a given unit of text
> > > > > (e.g. a
> > > > > line) has exactly one language.
> > > > >
> > > > > Take care.
> > > > > --joanie
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 19:45 +0100, Jérémy Prego via orca-list
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > since the last commit (38acd26f3), orca announces the type of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > zone
> > > > > > before the text.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > exemple in pluma:
> > > > > > hello text.
> > > > > > before:
> > > > > > text. Hello
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it bothers me especially for large texts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > however, I can read: "This change should not impact the end-
> > > > > > user
> > > > > > experience." but, I see that it impacts me, :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jerem
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