Re: [orca-list] bug : orca announces content before type



for info, here is a debug showing the problem
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m5i8wo5vvjq7qrh/debug-2022-01-08-13%3A16%3A51.out?dl=1

I think I'm going to redo my configuration, even if recreate all my keyboard shortcuts discourages me a little :)

Jerem
Le 08/01/2022 à 12:46, Jérémy Prego via orca-list a écrit :
hey joanie,

I'm sorry, by doing like you -u / tmp / toto, I'm not reproducing the concern either ... my apologies!

now, it remains to find out which parameter changes that between the two commits.

if I really can't find it, I'll send a debug.out to get some help :)

thanks again, and sorry for the time lost!

Jerem
Le 08/01/2022 à 12:20, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
Hey again Jerem.

I just tried your steps to reproduce the issue using pidgin. Orca
master for me says "read only text" first and then presents the line of
text. In order to be sure that my personal settings weren't to blame, I
launched Orca with

-u /tmp/foo

I still get "read only text" first. So a debug.out from before the
commit in question and one from after would be helpful.

Sorry and thanks again!
--joanie

On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 21:42 +0100, Jérémy Prego via orca-list wrote:
hey joanie

I propose to take another example, more easily reproducible with a
longer type.

1. Send a message in a conversation on pidgin
2. Press f6 to get to the message history area

from commit 38acd26f
orca says: "(21:00:00) joanie: Hello Jerem. read only text"
Before the 38acd26f commit:
orca says: "read only text. (21:00:00) joanie: Hello Jerem."

hope that helps

PS: I just noticed that I have a problem in my old version of
thunderbird (52.9.1) when writing a message, I will send an email for
this specific problem or respond in the existing thread :)


Jerem
Le 07/01/2022 à 21:13, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
Hey again Jerem.

I guess I need more concrete steps to understand and reproduce the
problem. By default (e.g. when navigating within pluma) the "text"
role
is not spoken. So you need something like a focus event. Therefore
what
I did is create a new document with "Hello world" in pluma. Then I
alt+tabbed out and back in. Orca spoke "text. hello world" with the
current master as well as with the gnome-41 branch.

If you could write out a numbered list of steps, the exact spoken
expected results, the exact actual spoken results, etc., it would
be
helpful. Thanks again!
--joanie

On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 19:57 +0100, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Hey Jerem. Thanks for the report! I'll try to address that this
weekend.

As for the commit messages, that's on purpose. I wouldn't want
you to
think a regression is a feature. <grins>

The language switching support is taking a lot of plumbing
changes
because most of Orca's code assumes that a given unit of text
(e.g. a
line) has exactly one language.

Take care.
--joanie

On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 19:45 +0100, Jérémy Prego via orca-list
wrote:
hello,

since the last commit (38acd26f3), orca announces the type of
the
zone
before the text.

exemple in pluma:
hello text.
before:
text. Hello

it bothers me especially for large texts.

however, I can read: "This change should not impact the end-
user
experience." but, I see that it impacts me, :)

Jerem
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