Re: [orca-list] bug : orca announces content before type



Hey Milton.

Since you can reproduce the pluma example, is there any chance you
could send me two debug.outs: one before my change and one after?

And to be clear, I don't think waiting to hear "text" is a good thing.
It's just a thing I'm not personally seeing. I plan to fix this issue
soon.

Thanks for testing and confirming the issue!
--joanie

On Sat, 2022-01-08 at 07:34 +0100, Milton via orca-list wrote:
Hi,

I can confirm in Pluma with the example 'Hello world'.

After alt+tabbed out and back in Orca speaks:

'Hello world text'.

Before Orca speaks:

'Text Hello world'.

When I hear the word 'text' I immediately know I am in an area to
insert 
text. But now in the new situation I have to wait until the content
is 
read to hear the word 'text'.

Milton

Op 07-01-2022 om 21:42 schreef Jérémy Prego via orca-list:
hey joanie

I propose to take another example, more easily reproducible with a 
longer type.

1. Send a message in a conversation on pidgin
2. Press f6 to get to the message history area

from commit 38acd26f
orca says: "(21:00:00) joanie: Hello Jerem. read only text"
Before the 38acd26f commit:
orca says: "read only text. (21:00:00) joanie: Hello Jerem."

hope that helps

PS: I just noticed that I have a problem in my old version of 
thunderbird (52.9.1) when writing a message, I will send an email
for 
this specific problem or respond in the existing thread :)


Jerem
Le 07/01/2022 à 21:13, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
Hey again Jerem.

I guess I need more concrete steps to understand and reproduce
the
problem. By default (e.g. when navigating within pluma) the
"text" role
is not spoken. So you need something like a focus event.
Therefore what
I did is create a new document with "Hello world" in pluma. Then
I
alt+tabbed out and back in. Orca spoke "text. hello world" with
the
current master as well as with the gnome-41 branch.

If you could write out a numbered list of steps, the exact spoken
expected results, the exact actual spoken results, etc., it would
be
helpful. Thanks again!
--joanie

On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 19:57 +0100, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Hey Jerem. Thanks for the report! I'll try to address that this
weekend.

As for the commit messages, that's on purpose. I wouldn't want
you to
think a regression is a feature. <grins>

The language switching support is taking a lot of plumbing
changes
because most of Orca's code assumes that a given unit of text
(e.g. a
line) has exactly one language.

Take care.
--joanie

On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 19:45 +0100, Jérémy Prego via orca-list
wrote:
hello,

since the last commit (38acd26f3), orca announces the type of
the
zone
before the text.

exemple in pluma:
hello text.
before:
text. Hello

it bothers me especially for large texts.

however, I can read: "This change should not impact the end-
user
experience." but, I see that it impacts me, :)

Jerem
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