Re: [orca-list] Gnome 42



Hello,
I am sorry finding new details in small increments.
It started crashing again after a bit of usage.
Now I think the key point is to close orca, blindly start any GTK4 app and with such an app running launch orca again. While some GTK4 apps are running it won't be crashing.
Greetings
Peter


Dňa 8. 4. 2022 o 14:25 Peter Vágner via orca-list napísal(a):
Hello,
Finally I have figured out that gtk4 apps crashing right after launching them was my local issue. Once I have rebuilt orca it has started to work the way I expect it to. Presentation of all QT4 Vidgets is very unique since the key used to activate and the non localized role derived from the class name is spoken with each control but at least it's usable to an extend. Once I have managed to get gnome-control-center to work I am impressed that it is much more usable with the keyboard than it used to be. Some buttons are not clearly labelled but almost everything is accessible by using the keyboard alone including managing network connections VPNs, keyboard shortcuts and similar.
Greetings
Peter



Dňa 8. 4. 2022 o 12:00 Peter Vágner via orca-list napísal(a):
Hello,
I have found out gnome-calculator is also a GT4 app and this one is working although flat review is not working with all GTK4 apps. gnome-control-center, gnome-text editor, fractal all of these are crashing for me at startup. gnome-contacts is also GTK4 app. This one is working but breaks flat review.
When running gnome-contacts in a terminal, this is what I am getting...
(gnome-contacts:60160): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:52:58.077: Screen coordinates not supported, reported positions will be wrong GTK4 accessibility is really implemented different to GTK3. When new button in the contacts app receives the focus, orca is reporting...
GTK Image <space> Creates new contact
Please can you try to verify at least some of these?
Is something out of these tracked somewhere?
The conclusion is that GTK4 and wayland have major accessibility implications for us and we either have to keep using outdated versions or finally start moving elsewhere. We can run mate, xfce, ratpoison whatever with curated selection of apps but the trend is there and we as a community can do nothing about it.
Greetings
Peter



Dňa 7. 4. 2022 o 22:47 Peter Vágner via orca-list napísal(a):
Hello,
I apologize, I have mixed the numbers. I wanted to say Arch linux features gnome 42 and I have problems with all the GTK 4 apps when using them on gnome 42.
If you can, it would be great to reproduce what I am seeing.
Greetings
Peter


Dňa 7. 4. 2022 o 22:20 Peter Vágner via orca-list napísal(a):
Hello,
Arch linux now includes gnome 44 packages. After updating my system to gnome 44, I am still experiencing an issue where every GTK4 app I try to start exits with a segmentation fault and I don't know how to debug it. Unfortunatelly this also includes gnome control center known as settings.
Have you also updated and can you reproduce this?
Greetings
Peter


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