Re: [orca-list] Pluginsystem for Orca using libpeas

[Christopher Chaltain <chaltain outlook com>]

My understanding is that a lot of screen reader code is taking advantage of technologies built into and 
unique to each operating system, so only a limited amount of the code could be ported, and a lot of work 
would have to go into making this portable code work with the OS specific layers that would be needed on each 
platform. Just my $0.02.

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From: orca-list <orca-list-bounces gnome org> On Behalf Of chrys
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 2:55 PM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Pluginsystem for Orca using libpeas

Howdy Alex,

maybe its technically possible, but windows already has a lot of screen readers. So i will only concentrate 
my time to Linux. For windows its just another alternative. fur Linux its a must have without any choice 
currently.

Am 10.06.21 um 21:21 schrieb Alexandro Jurgensen via orca-list:
> Hi All,
>
> I’m just throwing this out there but can this work set the stage for Orca to be ported to other operating 
> systems? The organization I work with is interested in cross-platform screen reader technologies. If there 
> are already separate plugins for GTK and QT apps on the table, could this pave the way for plugins based on 
> MSAA or Apple’s AXAccessibility APIs?
>
> Warm regards,
> Alex
>
> Alex Jurgensen,
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> > On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Didier Spaier via orca-list <orca-list gnome org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would go for: 3. Build libpeas from source.
> >
> > Make a package for it just took 40 seconds on my laptop.
> >
> > I'll leave for others to tell you how to do that for Ubuntu.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Didier
> >
> >
> > Le 10/06/2021 à 18:44, Geoff Shang a écrit :
> > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2021, chrys wrote:
> > > > if this commit is true, you need at least version 1.26 of libpeas from January 2020.
> > > Debian Bullseye (the next release) has libpeas 1.28.
> > > Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be in buster-backports.
> > > I looked at the version in Bullseye. It actually has fewer dependencies than the version in Buster, and 
> > > many of them are the same version or are covered by packages in Buster.
> > > However, it depends on libpython3.9, and as the version of Python in Buster is 3.7.3 and one of the 
> > > dependencies for libpython3.9 is libc6 >= 2.29 which is higher than the version in Buster, trying to pull 
> > > in libpeas from Bullseye will result in an upgrade of libc6 which will suck in a whole lot of other 
> > > packages.
> > > As I see it, your choices are:
> > > 1.  Upgrade to Bullseye.  Bullseye is currently frozen and is likely to release soon, so this might be 
> > > safe enough to do.  I'm going to do this on one of my systems for a similar reason - I need Python > 3.7. 
> > >  You should read the release notes first though as there may be important changes (you should do this 
> > > anyway).
> > > 2.  Pull in libpeas from Bullseye anyway and accept all the upgraded packages.  This will result in a 
> > > partially upgraded system which is probably not a good idea, especially given that lib6 will be upgraded.
> > > 3.  Build libpeas from source. I have no idea at all how involved this is and it may well be more work 
> > > than it's worth, particularly given the dependencies.
> > > 4.  Wait for Bullseye to release.
> > > HTH,
> > > Geoff.
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