Re: [orca-list] Flat review bug in Mate

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Just committed another change to Orca master to work around the second
issue. Orca was getting messed up due to a massively-delayed event. For
me, I no longer have to do the Alt+Tabbing trick. Can you please try
master (ensuring you have both changes from today) and see if it's
fixed for you?

Thanks again!
--joanie

On Fri, 2021-02-26 at 11:09 +0100, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Ok, I just committed a change to master that works around it, but
> sometimes requires multiple attempts. If it fails the first time, you
> need to exit flat review (or cause it to be exited automatically). In
> terms of the latter, Alt+Tabbing out of and then back into the File
> operations window and then trying flat review works for me. Not
> great,
> but better than restarting things.
>
> I also noticed that (at least in gnome-shell), Orca is trying to
> review
> the file view window. That's probably another missing event or two
> from
> caja/Gtk+. I'll see if I can work around that now.
>
> And then I guess I'll file a bug or two against Caja....
>
> On Fri, 2021-02-26 at 10:53 +0100, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Aha. I can reproduce this problem too, using Accerciser without
> > Orca.
> > When the File operations window shows up and something (Orca,
> > Accerciser) is already paying attention, none of the objects show
> > up
> > in
> > the accessibility tree besides a single, childless filler. Orca
> > cannot
> > see those other objects you want to review.
> >
> > My guess is that restarting the app (Orca, Accerciser) causes AT-
> > SPI2
> > to rebuild the accessibility tree from scratch. In which case, the
> > bug
> > is that Caja (or Gtk+) is not emitting children-changed:add events
> > to
> > let AT-SPI2 (and Orca and Accerciser) that the things on-screen
> > have
> > been added.
> >
> > I'll see if I can catch this condition in Orca. If not, they'll
> > need
> > to
> > fix their bug.
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> >  
> > On Thu, 2021-02-25 at 23:10 +0100, Jérémy Prego via orca-list
> > wrote:
> > > hello,
> > >
> > > I confirm that the bug happens' from time to time. when using the
> > > Flat
> > > review during a file copy, orca only says the window title of
> > > copy.
> > > we
> > > have to restart orca so that it can tell the contents of the file
> > > copy
> > > window
> > >
> > > step to reproduce:
> > > 1. make a copy of a large file
> > > 2. in the copy window, try to move from line to line with flat
> > > review
> > >
> > > obtained result:
> > > orca say : File operations
> > > expected result:
> > > orca reads the copy window, number of files remaining to be
> > > copied,
> > > time
> > > remaining, speed of the copy ...
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Jerem
> > > Le 25/02/2021 à 18:09, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > > > Hi Vojta.
> > > >
> > > > As always, I need very specific steps to reproduce the problem
> > > > (including app name, keystrokes, etc.) in order to try to fix
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > --joanie
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 2021-02-25 at 13:18 +0100, Vojtěch šmiro via orca-list
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have another bug in Mate and file operation. When I am
> > > > > copying
> > > > > or 
> > > > > cutting some files, I can't read details in flat review. I
> > > > > have
> > > > > to 
> > > > > restart Orca, but sometimes it fails and I must wait. It's in
> > > > > Ubuntu 
> > > > > Mate 20.04, Debian, Raspbian and Ubuntu in Rpi. Also in older
> > > > > Ubuntu 
> > > > > Orca master do this. And in update manager in Ubuntu too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Vojta.
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