Re: [orca-list] Flat review bug in Mate

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Ok, I just committed a change to master that works around it, but
sometimes requires multiple attempts. If it fails the first time, you
need to exit flat review (or cause it to be exited automatically). In
terms of the latter, Alt+Tabbing out of and then back into the File
operations window and then trying flat review works for me. Not great,
but better than restarting things.

I also noticed that (at least in gnome-shell), Orca is trying to review
the file view window. That's probably another missing event or two from
caja/Gtk+. I'll see if I can work around that now.

And then I guess I'll file a bug or two against Caja....

On Fri, 2021-02-26 at 10:53 +0100, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Aha. I can reproduce this problem too, using Accerciser without Orca.
> When the File operations window shows up and something (Orca,
> Accerciser) is already paying attention, none of the objects show up
> in
> the accessibility tree besides a single, childless filler. Orca
> cannot
> see those other objects you want to review.
>
> My guess is that restarting the app (Orca, Accerciser) causes AT-SPI2
> to rebuild the accessibility tree from scratch. In which case, the
> bug
> is that Caja (or Gtk+) is not emitting children-changed:add events to
> let AT-SPI2 (and Orca and Accerciser) that the things on-screen have
> been added.
>
> I'll see if I can catch this condition in Orca. If not, they'll need
> to
> fix their bug.
>
> --joanie
>
>  
> On Thu, 2021-02-25 at 23:10 +0100, Jérémy Prego via orca-list wrote:
> > hello,
> >
> > I confirm that the bug happens' from time to time. when using the
> > Flat
> > review during a file copy, orca only says the window title of copy.
> > we
> > have to restart orca so that it can tell the contents of the file
> > copy
> > window
> >
> > step to reproduce:
> > 1. make a copy of a large file
> > 2. in the copy window, try to move from line to line with flat
> > review
> >
> > obtained result:
> > orca say : File operations
> > expected result:
> > orca reads the copy window, number of files remaining to be copied,
> > time
> > remaining, speed of the copy ...
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Jerem
> > Le 25/02/2021 à 18:09, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > > Hi Vojta.
> > >
> > > As always, I need very specific steps to reproduce the problem
> > > (including app name, keystrokes, etc.) in order to try to fix it.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2021-02-25 at 13:18 +0100, Vojtěch šmiro via orca-list
> > > wrote:
> > > > Good Afternoon,
> > > >
> > > > I have another bug in Mate and file operation. When I am
> > > > copying
> > > > or 
> > > > cutting some files, I can't read details in flat review. I have
> > > > to 
> > > > restart Orca, but sometimes it fails and I must wait. It's in
> > > > Ubuntu 
> > > > Mate 20.04, Debian, Raspbian and Ubuntu in Rpi. Also in older
> > > > Ubuntu 
> > > > Orca master do this. And in update manager in Ubuntu too.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards
> > > >
> > > > Vojta.
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