Re: [orca-list] accessible video conferencing apps on Linux with orca

[Dave Hunt <ka1cey gmail com>]

I've had google meet conferences get bombed.  Another conferencing 
possibility, and its accessibility is steadily improving, is discord.  
The desktop app and web interface are both quite good; Use something 
chrome-like for best results on Discord web.



Cheers,



Dave



Sent from my Lenovo Thinkpad, running Slint GNU/Linux.  https://slint.fr

On 2/5/21 2:54 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> I mean, Zoom-bombing isn't a phenomenon limited to Zoom. See:
>
>
> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/zoombombing-countermeasures-are-ineffective-in-the-vast-majority-of-cases/ 
>
>
>
> Takeaways:
>
>
> 1. Lots of zoom-bombing incidents are internal to the group, not 
> external.
>
> 2. As such, setting a password doesn't necessarily work because 
> zoom-bombers already have that.
>
> 3. Likewise, using waiting rooms don't work because insiders either 
> join as usual, or tell the outsider which names they might get away with.
>
> 4. The only real mitigation is for each participant to get a custom 
> link, then you'd at least know who leaked a credential to a 
> zoom-bomber. And given Jitsi's "here's a link, join the meeting" 
> approach, they're basically not using the only mitigation 
> countermeasure with any chance of making an impact.
>
>
> Don't get me wrong--I like Jitsi and want it to succeed. I'm also not 
> a big fan of Zoom. But I also like participating in video conferences 
> where they are relevant to me personally or professionally. So please 
> don't throw out a solid, accessible contender based on a kneejerk 
> reaction against Zoom-bombing. In an alternate universe, open source 
> would have won, and we'd be talking about how to prevent Jitsi-bombing.
>
>
> On 2/5/2021 1:29 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > zoom bombing so far cannot be prevented on that platform, so that may 
> > be a good reason to avoid zoom until zoom either gets that problem 
> > fixed or the app itself gives up and fails.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 5 Feb 2021, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> >
> > > Jitsi accessibility seems to have improved in the last few months. 
> > > Can't speak to the accessibility of the native app, but my last 
> > > browser tests seemed to indicate lots more labels and improved 
> > > keyboard accessibility to buttons.
> > >
> > >
> > > You'll probably want to use it with Chrome or a Chrome-based browser 
> > > for the moment, as I think there are still a few rough edges for 
> > > Firefox.
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, depending on how you feel about Zoom, I think the 
> > > browser-based meeting interface was fairly accessible when last I 
> > > checked. The native Linux app left some things to be desired, but if 
> > > you jump through the hoops to enable it, you and others can use the 
> > > HTML 5 interface to host and attend meetings.
> > >
> > > On 2/5/2021 11:45 AM, Daniel McGee via orca-list wrote:
> > > >  Hello all
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Any recommendations out there for video chat apps that one could 
> > > > use with
> > > >  orca in an accessible way?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Using Ubuntu Mate 20.4 LTS with the Ubuntu software center installed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Many thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Daniel
> > > >
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