Re: [orca-list] accessible video conferencing apps on Linux with orca

[Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>]

I mean, Zoom-bombing isn't a phenomenon limited to Zoom. See:


https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/zoombombing-countermeasures-are-ineffective-in-the-vast-majority-of-cases/


Takeaways:


1. Lots of zoom-bombing incidents are internal to the group, not external.

2. As such, setting a password doesn't necessarily work because 
zoom-bombers already have that.

3. Likewise, using waiting rooms don't work because insiders either join 
as usual, or tell the outsider which names they might get away with.

4. The only real mitigation is for each participant to get a custom 
link, then you'd at least know who leaked a credential to a zoom-bomber. 
And given Jitsi's "here's a link, join the meeting" approach, they're 
basically not using the only mitigation countermeasure with any chance 
of making an impact.


Don't get me wrong--I like Jitsi and want it to succeed. I'm also not a 
big fan of Zoom. But I also like participating in video conferences 
where they are relevant to me personally or professionally. So please 
don't throw out a solid, accessible contender based on a kneejerk 
reaction against Zoom-bombing. In an alternate universe, open source 
would have won, and we'd be talking about how to prevent Jitsi-bombing.


On 2/5/2021 1:29 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> zoom bombing so far cannot be prevented on that platform, so that may 
> be a good reason to avoid zoom until zoom either gets that problem 
> fixed or the app itself gives up and fails.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 5 Feb 2021, Nolan Darilek wrote:
>
> > Jitsi accessibility seems to have improved in the last few months. 
> > Can't speak to the accessibility of the native app, but my last 
> > browser tests seemed to indicate lots more labels and improved 
> > keyboard accessibility to buttons.
> >
> >
> > You'll probably want to use it with Chrome or a Chrome-based browser 
> > for the moment, as I think there are still a few rough edges for 
> > Firefox.
> >
> >
> > Also, depending on how you feel about Zoom, I think the browser-based 
> > meeting interface was fairly accessible when last I checked. The 
> > native Linux app left some things to be desired, but if you jump 
> > through the hoops to enable it, you and others can use the HTML 5 
> > interface to host and attend meetings.
> >
> > On 2/5/2021 11:45 AM, Daniel McGee via orca-list wrote:
> > >  Hello all
> > >
> > >
> > >  Any recommendations out there for video chat apps that one could 
> > > use with
> > >  orca in an accessible way?
> > >
> > >
> > >  Using Ubuntu Mate 20.4 LTS with the Ubuntu software center installed.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Many thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >  Daniel
> > >
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