Re: [orca-list] VoiceOver vs. Orca - An ignorant question

[Jeffery Mewtamer <mewtamer gmail com>]

I want to try Seamonkey, especially since it's like 50MB smaller than
Firefox, but the scripts I use to launch an xsession with just Firefox
and orca isn't my own, I don't understand enough of it to edit it to
use Seamonkey instead of Firefox, and aliasing Firefox to where the
seamonkey binary is stored after downloading and extracting the
tar.bz2 isn't enough to get it to run seamonkey instead of firefox or
for uninstalling Firefox to not remove Firefox from the script's
menu(the script gives the option between launching Firefox,
LibreOffice, or a full X session if the appropriate packages are
installed, but uninstalling LibreOffice or Firefox removes their
entries from the menu... and I've never had any luck manually
configuring startx or getting a script of my own design working(I'd
love to just be able to type startx.sh programName and get a stripped
down xserver with orca, flwm, and the named program... I'd would just
do startx.sh firefox most of the time, but having the option to run
other GUI applications on the rare occasion I'm doing something out of
the ordinary and a GUI might be easier than a command line solution
without having to have a full xserver installed would be nice).

And admittedly, I wouldn't even know where to look for logs related to
the hanging, and for all I know, it could be related to flwm, my
tinkering causing less glaring issues, the fact I'm sourcing most of
my packages from Debian Unstable(and prior to breaking Sudo a few days
ago that forced me to restore a backup of my root partition, I had
everything from experimental that didn't conflict with installed
packages(after the restore, I disabled experimental in my sources.list
and haven't checked for newer versions in experimental since), or the
fact this machine has been in daily use for over 10 years and the only
things that have been added or replaced are the hard drives and their
SATA cables. All I know is that when it happens, Orca stops talking
and I can't just quit Firefox with ctrl+q or alt+del(flwm uses this
instead of alt+F4) when I know there's only a single tab open or
holding ctrl+w until all tabs are closed, but switching to other ttys
and using cli applications still works... and I usually do stuff in
the console for a minute or two to check if the GUI is really hung or
its just a case of something on a webpage slowing things down and
needing to wait for Orca and/or Firefox to catch up(I do have only 4GB
of ram, and my swap partition is on a platter, not solid state... and
while I have an i7, it's a nearly 11-year-old model).

Regardless, the hanging is uncommon enough that it's no more annoying
than the occasional Firefox crash that forces the browser to restart.