Re: [orca-list] Vim, is it usable for us?

[Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>]

Hi, Rastislav:

Vim has been my editor of choice always, but I only ever use it on the
console, and not in the graphical desktop, i.e. with Speakup (or perhaps
Fenrir) and not with Orca.

I do not have the problems you describe in the console. Frankly, I don't
know why one would want to use vim in a graphical environment where
there are tools like gedit.

My main problem using vim these days is my need to create content
with line breaks only at paragraph boundaries for colleagues who use
Microsoft Word. I have a few workarounds for this situation, but it's a
headache that makes me want to reconsider emacs after all these years.

Best,

Janina

Orca screen reader developers writes:
> Hi folks,
>
> during my Linux adventures, I couldn't have missed possibly one of the most
> legendary Linux tools, Vim.
>
> Vim's philosophy of writing and editing text with a language was completely
> new for me, so I have quite enjoyed learning about it.
>
>
> However, after reading some introductory texts and few experiments, I have
> two questions:
>
> * how usable is Vim with Orca? I have noticed various rather strange
> behaviors like reading currently missed word when navigating character by
> character or reading a line in somewhat shuffled order when I approach it
> from the next line. H, J, K and L keys doesn't seem to work at all, I have
> to use arrow keys, I don't know, whether this is function of Vim or Orca.
>
> * Is Vim potentially useful for blind people? I can imagine, that when a
> sighted person sees the whole layout of a page, he / she has an imagination
> in his / her head what he / she wants to select, delete or replace, and thus
> a way to express it wia a special language can be very handy. However, blind
> people don't have this ability, we rather know our current position and drag
> the selection from it, until we find the ending point, as our view is
> limited to max. one line at once.
>
> So, the question is, is the ability to define operations with a language
> still that advantageous under these circumstances? On a graphical system,
> would you use Vim over a traditional editor like Pluma, or something similar
> with plugins, and if yes why?
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
> Rastislav
>
>
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Janina Sajka
https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:       http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures     http://www.w3.org/wai/apa