Re: [orca-list] Inaccessible webpage of basic school with Orca

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hi Vojta.

I think you can complain to the site authors. Here's what I did using
Firefox nightly without Orca or any assistive technology running:

1. Load zs.boskovice.cz
2. Right click on the image that says "Aktuálně"
3. Choose "Inspect accessibility properties"

In the resulting inspector, I see the following:

1. The graphic's "name" property is an empty string.
2. The parent of the graphic is a link with a warning pointed out by
   firefox that says "text label".
3. Clicking on the warning brings up the following message under
   "Checks": "Interactive elements must be labeled." It has a "Learn
   more" link for the authors to follow.

So Firefox itself is telling the authors they did it wrong. If that's
not good enough, I don't know what is.

In addition, here's the markup for that link + image:

<A ... href="aktualne.htm" ...>
   <IMG hspace=0 src="p_menu1.gif" border=0 name=m1 alt ="&nbsp;">
</A>

Note that they have explicitly set the name of that image to a non-
breaking space character.

Orca does have logic to do the sorts of corrections that NVDA and JAWS
are presumably doing for pages like this. However, that logic is
deliberately not used when an author explicitly sets the accessible
name via an alt attribute. When the author deliberately sets the alt
attribute, they are saying, "I know what I'm doing screen readers.
Please respect that." (Of course, they might not actually know what
they are doing, but think they are doing the right thing because NVDA
and JAWS have hackarounds that cause them do say something despite bad
authoring).

Therefore, please ask the authors to fix the authoring errors
identified by Firefox's built-in accessibility inspector.

Thanks!
--joanie

On Thu, 2020-10-29 at 15:09 +0100, Vojtěch šmiro via orca-list wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to write about inaccessible web page what is accessible
> in 
> Windows. My friend who has windows, Nvda and Jaws tested it for me.
> Open Firefox or Chrome and go to
> www.zs.boskovice.cz
> and Orca will say picture link about links on webpage, but not what
> is 
> that link. Hypra reads better than Ubuntu, but not all links. The
> main 
> problem is callendar what makes work with this website harder.
>
> Expected result: Orca may read what are the links.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Best regards
>
> Vojta.
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