[orca-list] Fwd: Orca master, Chrome unstable gmail problems
- From: Andy Borka <sonfire11 gmail com>
- To: Orca List <orca-list gnome org>
- Subject: [orca-list] Fwd: Orca master, Chrome unstable gmail problems
- Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 16:40:58 -0400
Hi,
There was an update at-spi 2.35 > 2.36. The only changes made were an upstream release where the changelog was empty. There was an orca update, even though I already have master installed. vscode has not changed in accessibility between the new updates.
Is there any chance that amongst your updates something from AT-SPI2 was
included? I did an update here (in Fedora) to get the latest chrome
unstable but there was also an update to at-spi2-atk. I was seeing some
general accessibility flakiness (e.g. with VSCode) until I rebooted.
On 3/13/20 15:54, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It appears that --enable-caret-browsing does the trick, but initial
> startup of Chrome is still flakey. I still have to randomly click on the
> page, then restart Chrome to get it working.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:24 PM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com
> <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>> wrote:
>
> As I mentioned to Alex, you still need --enable-caret-browsing for text
> selection. That is not an accessibility flag. The only flag that has
> (so
> far) been eliminated is --force-renderer-accessibility.
>
> On 3/13/20 14:53, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Using Google Chrome unstable with flags generally works. This is
> what I
> > have in my setup:
> >
> > in .profile:
> > ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1
> > export ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED
> >
> > in google-chrome.sh:
> >
> > google-chrome-unstable --force-renderer-accessible
> --enable-caret-browsing
> >
> > It worked fine until chrome-unstable had an update yesterday. When I
> > tried to run chrome-unstable without the above flags, Orca was
> able to
> > access the contents of the pages I visited. However, accessing it
> for
> > the first time left Orca in a state of limbo. It has now affected
> using
> > Chrome with the above flags.
> >
> > 1. Start Orca master
> > 2. Put ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1 in your environment.
> > 3.
> > Start Chrome unstable (latest update) with above flags.
> >
> > 4.
> > Try to access the internet such as www.google.com
> <http://www.google.com>
> > <http://www.google.com <http://www.google.com>>
> > 5.
> > Close that instance of Chrome.
> > 6.
> > Start Chrome without the accessibility flags.
> > 7.
> > Try to access www.google.com <http://www.google.com>
> <http://www.google.com <http://www.google.com>>
> >
> > Actual results: Orca is acting unreliably and has experienced
> extreme
> > lag. In fact, the normal way of accessing gmail doesn't work.
> > Expected results: Both instances of Chrome should be accessible.
> At very
> > least, the instance with flags should work as before.
> >
> > Unless this is a regression in Orca, but this didn't start until
> Chrome
> > updated.
> >
> > Orca master, Chrome unstable, Ubuntu 20.04.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:07 PM Joanmarie Diggs
> <jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>
> > <mailto:jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Alex: I'm afraid I don't understand this at all either. What
> is "the
> > selection to work"? Mind writing this in the form of steps to
> reproduce?
> >
> > On 3/13/20 14:00, Alex ARNAUD via orca-list wrote:
> > > Le 13/03/2020 à 18:57, Alex ARNAUD via orca-list a écrit :
> > >> The startup issue only occurs with ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED
> set to
> > 1 in
> > >> the environment variable.
> > >
> > > This also prevents the selection to work.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> <mailto:orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>>
> > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
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> > <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list>>
> > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
> > <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>>
> > > Orca documentation:
> https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
> > <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>>
> > > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
> > <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>>
> > >
> >
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> > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
> > <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>>
> > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
> > <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>>
> > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
> > <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>>
> >
> >
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> > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
> > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
> > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
> >
>
>
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