Re: [orca-list] Orca master, Chrome unstable gmail problems
- From: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
- To: Andy Borka <sonfire11 gmail com>, Orca List <orca-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca master, Chrome unstable gmail problems
- Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 16:24:10 -0400
Is there any chance that amongst your updates something from AT-SPI2 was
included? I did an update here (in Fedora) to get the latest chrome
unstable but there was also an update to at-spi2-atk. I was seeing some
general accessibility flakiness (e.g. with VSCode) until I rebooted.
On 3/13/20 15:54, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
Hi,
It appears that --enable-caret-browsing does the trick, but initial
startup of Chrome is still flakey. I still have to randomly click on the
page, then restart Chrome to get it working.
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:24 PM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com
<mailto:jdiggs igalia com>> wrote:
As I mentioned to Alex, you still need --enable-caret-browsing for text
selection. That is not an accessibility flag. The only flag that has
(so
far) been eliminated is --force-renderer-accessibility.
On 3/13/20 14:53, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Using Google Chrome unstable with flags generally works. This is
what I
> have in my setup:
>
> in .profile:
> ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1
> export ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED
>
> in google-chrome.sh:
>
> google-chrome-unstable --force-renderer-accessible
--enable-caret-browsing
>
> It worked fine until chrome-unstable had an update yesterday. When I
> tried to run chrome-unstable without the above flags, Orca was
able to
> access the contents of the pages I visited. However, accessing it
for
> the first time left Orca in a state of limbo. It has now affected
using
> Chrome with the above flags.
>
> 1. Start Orca master
> 2. Put ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1 in your environment.
> 3.
> Start Chrome unstable (latest update) with above flags.
>
> 4.
> Try to access the internet such as www.google.com
<http://www.google.com>
> <http://www.google.com <http://www.google.com>>
> 5.
> Close that instance of Chrome.
> 6.
> Start Chrome without the accessibility flags.
> 7.
> Try to access www.google.com <http://www.google.com>
<http://www.google.com <http://www.google.com>>
>
> Actual results: Orca is acting unreliably and has experienced
extreme
> lag. In fact, the normal way of accessing gmail doesn't work.
> Expected results: Both instances of Chrome should be accessible.
At very
> least, the instance with flags should work as before.
>
> Unless this is a regression in Orca, but this didn't start until
Chrome
> updated.
>
> Orca master, Chrome unstable, Ubuntu 20.04.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:07 PM Joanmarie Diggs
<jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>
> <mailto:jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>>> wrote:
>
> Alex: I'm afraid I don't understand this at all either. What
is "the
> selection to work"? Mind writing this in the form of steps to
reproduce?
>
> On 3/13/20 14:00, Alex ARNAUD via orca-list wrote:
> > Le 13/03/2020 à 18:57, Alex ARNAUD via orca-list a écrit :
> >> The startup issue only occurs with ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED
set to
> 1 in
> >> the environment variable.
> >
> > This also prevents the selection to work.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
<https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
> <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
<https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>>
> > Orca documentation:
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>>
> > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>>
> >
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<https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
> <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
<https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>>
> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>>
> GNOME Universal Access guide:
> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
> <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>>
>
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> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
> GNOME Universal Access guide:
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<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
>
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