Re: [orca-list] punctuation level keystroke I set doesn't seem to work

[Al Sten-Clanton <albert e sten_clanton verizon net>]

Hi, Didier and all.


Didier, I removed the # from the line you suggested, killed and 
restarted the gui, and found that the keystroke now works.  I see that 
there are later messages on the topic, so I'll update the pertinent 
package when you say it's good.  (I know nothing about speechd.conf yet.)


Thanks!


Al


On 1/29/20 6:23 AM, Didier Spaier via orca-list wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes I can reproduce. Currently in Slint punctuation settings are not
> honored at all, even when set in the preferences GUI.
>
> But orca is not involved, I think that the issue comes from the default
> settings in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf modified by
> commit 27835c9
>
> Since then in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf,
> DefaultSymbolsPreprocessing is set to 1 by default,
> but the default setting listed
> # SymbolPreprocessingFile "symbols.dic"
> is not applied as faras I can tell.
>
> If I uncomment it like this:
> SymbolPreprocessingFile "symbols.dic"
> everything works as expected, i.e. settings in
> .local/share/orca/user_settings.conf are honored, as well as those made
> throuh a keyboard shortcut did Albert.
>
> As an aside, setting DefaultSymbolsPreprocessing to 0 instead also
> works, as expected.
>
> So:
> 1. Al, could you please edit as root
> /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf
> to replace this line:
> # SymbolPreprocessingFile "symbols.dic"
> by:
> SymbolPreprocessingFile "symbols.dic"
> then reboot and check that now the punctuation settings work.
>
> If that succeeds I will update the speech-dispatcher package.
>
> 2. Samuel, could you please check my findings and if confirmed modify
> speechd.conf as need be?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Didier
>
>
> Le 29/01/20 à 01:29, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > Didier, I cannot reproduce this problem. Since Slint is involved, could you please see if you can? Thanks!
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 1/28/20 7:11 PM, Didier Spaier via orca-list wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Joanie probably means the synthesizer set in the voice tab of Orca preferences.
> > >
> > > By default in Slint it's espeak-ng but maybe you have changed it.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Didier
> > >
> > > Le 29/01/20 à 00:57, Al Sten-Clanton via orca-list a écrit :
> > > > Orca says I'm using speech dispatcher.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Al
> > > > On 1/28/20 6:53 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > What synthesizer are you using?
> > > > > --joanie
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/28/20 6:26 PM, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:
> > > > > > Hi, Joanie.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1.  I read your message, the one just below.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2.  I used orca-space to get into settings, then right-arrowed to speech settings, then tabbed to punctuation 
> > > > > > = most.  I hit escape and got out of there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3.  I pressed control-shift-p.  When I do that, as I did just this second, it says "p punctuation set to all."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4.  I reread a bit of your message. It did not read the comma in "Having said that, ..." It read no other 
> > > > > > punctuation, either.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 5.  I hit orca-space again and went to the punctuation setting. It still said punctuation = most.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note:  I've bound a couple of other keys, but have only tested control-shift-pageup and 
> > > > > > control-shift-pagedown, which are to increase and decrease the speech rate.  They work as they should.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope this helps, but tell me if you need more testing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Al
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 1/28/20 12:39 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > > > Update: Having pinned down the source of the Shift-related regression, realized that it only happens with 
> > > > > > > Orca+Shift+key; not Ctrl+Shift+key. That, along with reading your message more closely, tells me that my 
> > > > > > > previous suggestion to try without Shift was bogus. Sorry about that!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Having said that, punctuation cycling is working for me as expected. So I'm not sure what's going on in your 
> > > > > > > case. Can you give me very precise steps to reproduce the problem?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note that changing the punctuation level via keystroke is meant to be very temporary. For instance, imagine 
> > > > > > > you're proofreading a message where the punctuation needs to be perfect. You'd use the command to change the 
> > > > > > > punctuation level, and re-read the message before sending. But as soon as you get into another application, 
> > > > > > > things go back to the default. If you really want to make a permanent change, you should do so not via 
> > > > > > > keystroke, but by setting the value in the Orca preferences dialog, either globally or for the application 
> > > > > > > where you need that setting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --joanie
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 1/28/20 11:59 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > > > > There seems to be a regression in bindings which are rebound and have shift in them. I'll look into this. In 
> > > > > > > > the meantime, try a shortcut without Shift to see if this is the same problem for you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --joanie
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 1/28/20 8:05 AM, Al Sten-Clanton via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Greetings!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am using what I think is the latest version of Orca, and also of Slint.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I assigned the key control-shift-p to set punctuation levels for Orca. I did this as a general setting, not specific to 
> > > > > > > > > any app. When I use the keystroke and am told that the punctuation level is "all," however, I do not get all 
> > > > > > > > > the punctuation. (I'm not sure what level I'm at for the default.) I have found this when using Bookshare with chrome, 
> > > > > > > > > in Thunderbird when reading message, and, if memory serves, in a text document (I forget which editor).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Am I missing something I should do?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Al
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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