Re: [orca-list] Change made to flat review copy/append

[John Covici <covici ccs covici com>]

Could it be in the gui as a checkbox or to specify the separator in
the gui?

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 14:20:22 -0500,
Nolan Darilek wrote:
> No need to apologize so much, thanks for all your work. :) I'm
> not necessarily asking for anything. I can work around this for
> the time being. Just noting that this broke my "I need to copy an
> exception into an issue/email to coworkers" workflow, but clearly
> the previous solution broke someone else's. Maybe we revert,
> maybe we hold out for start/end markers. I don't know what the
> best path forward is--I'm just contributing another data point to
> help us all decide. :)
>
> On 1/27/20 1:16 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Understood re the marking solution. In the meantime, are you
> > asking me to totally revert the change, partially revert the
> > change, or make it possible to customize the separator
> > character via orca-customizations.py?
> >
> > Sorry and thanks!
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 1/27/20 12:41 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > > So one thing this absolutely does break, and I don't know what
> > > the workaround is, is copying exceptions. Here's an example of
> > > one I just tried copying, trimmed down as to not be overly
> > > annoying:
> > >
> > >
> > > Recovering state to /tmp/skr_9101093002840883559 Exception in
> > > thread "grpc-default-executor-0" java.lang.Error:
> > > com.abbyy.FREngine.EngineException: Internal program error:
> > > Src/PagesPrivateStorage.cpp, 49.     at
> > > java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1155)
> > >      at ...
> > >
> > >
> > > I.e. the whole thing on one long line.
> > >
> > > I guess now I have to store the exception in a file, load that
> > > into gedit, and copy-paste out of that.
> > >
> > > I really do think the start/end-mark solution is the best
> > > here. No amount of adding/removing newlines will satisfy
> > > everyone, and even a setting will work in some instances and
> > > not in others.
> > >
> > > On 1/22/20 6:57 PM, Mewtamer wrote:
> > > > While I'm quite use to line-by-line cut and paste as a nano user, I do
> > > > agree the copy, line down, append, line down, append process described
> > > > sounds rather cumbersome.
> > > >
> > > > For those unfamiliar with nano, it's cut command takes the current
> > > > line and puts it in a buffer, and repeated cuts append additional
> > > > lines to the buffer until you move the insertion point or uncut the
> > > > buffer's contents, after which, the next kut clears the buffer.
> > > >
> > > > Inspired by this behavior, perhaps one way to simplyfy multi-line
> > > > copies in a way that can be implemented relatively quickly and serve
> > > > as a stopgap until a marker or shift+arrows selection method can be
> > > > implemented would be for:
> > > > 1. Initial copy command copies current line and automatically moves
> > > > the reading cursor down one line.
> > > > 2. repeated copy commands without other input are assumed to
> > > > be appends.
> > > > 3. moving the reading cursor manually or issuing other commands
> > > > assumes you're done copying.
> > > > 4. The append command can be used to start copying from a
> > > > different location.
> > > >
> > > > So, if copy were bound to Orca+c and append to orca+shift+C and you
> > > > want to copy lines 2-5 and 10-15, this might simplify the process to:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Navigate to line 2.
> > > > 2. Hold orca and tap c four times.
> > > > 3. Navigate to line 10
> > > > 3. Hold orca, press shift+c and tap c five more times(with or without
> > > > releasing shift).
> > > >
> > > > The marker idea or simply being able to shift+arrow keys in flat
> > > > review would probably be quicker if implemented, but what I just
> > > > described still sounds quicker than the current method and is
> > > > presumably just chaining together existing functions in a way that
> > > > reduces keystrokes(essentially, a mini-macro). Admittedly, such might
> > > > actually be a lot harder to implement than I think, but I figure it's
> > > > worth mentioning as a possible intermediate improvement.
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> > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
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