Greetings peter,
This may be OT, but I thought I would suggest it nonetheless. I
watched the video, and it does seem rather novel and even helpful.
However, the system seems to me to be rather time-consuming and
therefore inefficient. Are you by chance an emacs/emacspeak user?
There is a great composition program called LilyPond, and it comes
with very helpful emacs support. There is a lot of documentation as
well as an active user forum. I might consider it as another option
for composing.
Hwaen Ch'uqi
On 1/10/20, Michael P. Gorse via orca-list <
orca-list gnome org> wrote:
> I'm not sure if this will really help you with your issue, but I've just
> created a repository for Leap with an updated orca / accessibility stack:
>
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/mgorse:/a11y/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/>
> You can substitute "15.0" to get a Leap 15.0 repository.
>
> Leap is somewhat analogous to CentOS--in general, it might not have
> particularly new versions of things. Some of the openSUSE development
> repositories have builds for Leap, making it possible to install them in
> order to update specific packages, but it seems that GNOME:Factory does
> not. Tumbleweed is the rolling distribution that will generally be
> up-to-date.
>
> Hth,
> -Mike
>
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2020, Peter Bartels via orca-list wrote:
>
>> It's more that I'm used to OpenSuse. I started with Linux more than 20
>> years ago, switched between several distributions, but stooded somtime
>> with Opensuse, because you know your way around it. But mabay it's time to
>> make room
>> (=partitions) for ohter distributions too (with all advantages and
>> disadvantages;-).
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> Am Freitag, 10. Januar 2020, 19:05:50 MEZ hat Nolan Darilek
>> <
nolan thewordnerd info> Folgendes geschrieben:
>>
>>
>> Do you have to use OpenSuse?
>>
>>
>> If it's that far behind, it seems like OpenSuse may not be serving your
>> interests. It will be very hard for anyone developing Orca to improve
>> accessibility to your application if you're stuck on a version that's
>> nearly 2.5 years old.
>> It's also a bit unlikely that things will improve if feedback you give
>> isn't based on any changes actively made to Orca master.
>>
>>
>> I've had very good luck with Fedora, and have run it for the past 5-6
>> years. Ubuntu is OK as well, though my understanding is that they tweak
>> the Orca package in ways that introduce incompatibilities (I.e. replacing
>> Orca's default
>> settings storage with their own, which isn't always very well-tested if
>> recent reports here are any indication.)
>>
>>
>> On 1/10/20 11:53 AM, Peter Bartels via orca-list wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Joanie,
>>
>> not with Orca version 3.26.0. Today I upgraded OpenSuse to 15.1, but there
>> isn't another disrtribution package of Orca available - it's a little bit
>> annoying. As far I've read in May 2020 will be published the next
>> distributution
>> version with an actual version of Orca; so it seems I can't check it
>> before :-(.
>>
>> Btw. (and FWIW) on FOSDEM 2020 there will be an presentation of
>> accessibility features in MuseScore (FOSDEM 2020 - Accessibility in
>> MuseScore.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> FOSDEM 2020 - ACCESSIBILITY IN MUSESCORE
>>
>>
>>
>> In this this context it would be great, if Orca would work in the same way
>> as NVDA with the acual state of MuseScore (respectively the reason in case
>> Orca can read menu items and so on but can't read musical elements - as
>> mentioned I
>> can't check it at time).
>>
>>
>> Beyond that: thank you very much for all you replies so far, it's very
>> appreiciated (and maybe someone is instered to get the application work
>> with Orca)
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2020, 20:12:19 MEZ hat Joanmarie Diggs
>> <
jdiggs igalia com> Folgendes geschrieben:
>>
>>
>> Confirmed here too. But in my case, Orca is presenting things (e.g. the
>> dialog box widgets) to me. Is it not even presenting those to you?
>>
>> There have been a lot of fixes in Orca and a lot of fixes in AT-SPI2
>> along with some in ATK since the versions you have. I would start with
>> upgrading to something current and then re-testing.
>>
>> --joanie
>>
>>
>> On 1/9/20 13:31, Peter Bartels via orca-list wrote:
>> > Just noticed an to be precise: MuseScore (="mscore") is listed after
>> > starting the application (but Orca don't work with it), but isn't
>> > listed, when MuseSore isn't opened.
>> >
>> > With best regards
>> >
>> > Peter
>> >
>> > Am Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2020, 18:36:33 MEZ hat Joanmarie Diggs
>> > <
jdiggs igalia com> Folgendes geschrieben:
>> >
>> >
>> > If you type "orca -l" in a terminal, does the application in question
>> > show up in the list?
>> >
>> > --joanie
>> >
>> > On 1/9/20 09:51, Peter Bartels via orca-list wrote:
>> > > The Qt-application MuseScore is a scorewriter. One aim is to improve
>> > the
>> > > accessibility, also that it works with screen readers.
>> > > The actual version seems to run by using NVDA with Windows quite
>> > good
>> > >
>> > (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=Ocl9gBxmeKg&feature=emb_logo>> > <
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=Ocl9gBxmeKg&feature=emb_logo>),
>> >
>> > > but I don't get it to run with Orca, not sure about the reason.
>> > >
>> > > My system: OpenSuse Lep 15.0, using XFCE, QT-version: 5.9.4 (so the
>> > > command "export QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1" shouldn't be neccassary anymore
>> > and
>> > > don't have any effect), orca version: 3.26.0, at-spi2 version:
>> > 2.26.3
>> > >
>> > > GTK-applications seems to work well for me. But what is neccassary
>> > to
>> > > get work Orca with Qt-applications in general, but especially with
>> > > MuseScore? It would be great if the software would also work with a
>> > > screen reader and Linux (and at time it's not clear also for the
>> > > developers about the reason:
https://musescore.org/en/node/299387>> > <
https://musescore.org/en/node/299387 >), so
>> > > to improve the accessibility features there.
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
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>> > > Orca wiki:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>> > <
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
>> > > Orca documentation:
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>> > <
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
>> > > GNOME Universal Access guide:
>> >
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>> > <
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