Re: [orca-list] Should Orca treat navigational bars as lists or not

[Alex ARNAUD <aarnaud hypra fr>]

    Le 17/02/2020 à 20:09, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> Hey
>       all.
>       
>       
>       Changing the subject and seeking input on something Alex pointed
>       out. Given a navigation bar of links at the top of a page, Orca
>       doesn't present it as a list; it just presents the line of links.
>       However, you can still use Orca's structural navigation (e.g. "l")
>       to get to these lists.
>       
>       
>       Here's an example:
>       https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.4/components/navbar/
>       
>       
>       Note that there are actually two lists in the navbar on that page.
>       
>       
>       Would you like Orca to:
>       
>       
>       1. Announce the number of items on the list before presenting each
>       of
>       
>          the navbars on that line?
>       
>     
    NVDA reads the whole line at ounce but indicate list with X items
    then at the end "end of list". I think this should be indicated but
    it could practical to switch to a specific list of items. I think we
    should do like NVDA. On NVDA pressing down arrow switches to the
    list first item then all item of the list, I think it's a good idea
    too. If advance users would like to quickly skip the list they could
    use "," (coma) to skip the list.
    
>       2. Prevent "l" (and "i") from treating those navbars as lists?
>       
>     
    I don't think it's the philosophy of Orca to change the website
    behaviour.
    
>       3. Leave things as they are?
>       
>     
    The current behaviour could leave user in confusion as they will
    switch to an unannounced list.
    
    Best regards.