Re: [orca-list] Announcing Speech Switch: making Linux a hospitable place for TTS engines like Voxin
- From: Alex ARNAUD <aarnaud hypra fr>
- To: Samuel Thibault <sthibault hypra fr>, Bill Cox <waywardgeek gmail com>
- Cc: Orca-list <orca-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Announcing Speech Switch: making Linux a hospitable place for TTS engines like Voxin
- Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 15:40:51 +0100
I 100% agree with what Samuel said. I don't think we need an
alternative to Speech Dispatcher but coding effort to improve
application we're using (Firefox, LibreOffice, etc).
Speech Dispatcher has never been hostile to commercial TTS, in the
past years two proprietary speech synthesizer has been made
compatible with it, I talk about Voxygen and the Kali TTS and I
don't count Nuance Vocalizer one. I think the Oralux Vocalizer
modules should be shipped with Speech Dispatcher to avoid
compatibility issues in the future.
I think the main problem is the testing process and collaboration
between different parties. We couldn't avoid all bugs even with the
software you're writing. We couldn't request Samuel to do all the
job itself to code and test every scenario of every users in its
spare time.
If you've any proposal, don't hesitate to open pull request against
Speech Dispatcher.
Le 02/12/2020 à 18:29, Samuel Thibault
via orca-list a écrit :
Bill Cox via orca-list, le mer. 02 déc. 2020 08:27:18 -0800, a ecrit:
The problem is the architecture of Speech Dispatcher, which is hostile
to commercial TTS engines.
That's pure FUD. It is *not*, on the contrary!! The module approach
allows to integrate them by stuffing a binary in the right place.
The issues that we had with the voxin module were due to missing
*communication* and bugs, out of lack of testing. Creating *yet another*
speech server project will not help in that regard, and only bring
confusion to the accessibility stack.
It will also split the maintenance effort: speech dispatcher contains
symbol tables, drivers for various speech syntheses etc. Will you spend
the time to maintain all of this?
I don't see why creating yet another project. Why not just contributing
to the existing project?
Really, I don't understand, I can only interpret this as a slap in the
face and that cannot help me find motivation to continue contributing to
the accesibility stack (brlapi, orca braille driver, bugs in Xorg, bugs
in Wayland, etc.).
Really, can't we just work *together* rather that forking things here
and there yet again, bringing yet more confusion? Contribute code to
speech dispatcher and it'll just work. Did you actually try?
Samuel
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