Re: [orca-list] thunderbird

[Alex ARNAUD <aarnaud hypra fr>]

    Hello Jason,
    
    The Mozilla a11y team no longer works on Thunderbird and the
    Thunderbird team is overloaded.
    
    In my humble opinion, unfortunately, the best way to make such issue
    fixed is to find money and pay someone to figure out it for you.
    Spending your time to ask the TB team to figure out it seems too
    optimistic, I've already a lot of difficulties to make a column
    order regression fixed so I don't think such huge bug could be
    figured out in a reasonable amount of time.
    
    Best regards.

Le 29/04/2020 à 00:04, Jason White via orca-list a écrit :

> The
>       last comment in that bug report:
>       
>       
>       https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=924915
>       
>       
>       is asking for some profiling work to be done.
>       
>       
>       If anyone on this list is able to contribute (I'm thinking of
>       someone not involved in development), running the profiler and
>       commenting on the bug would help it toward resolution.
>       
>       
>       On 4/28/20 9:38 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
>       
> > Mattias: To be more clear on the setting
> >         you found. It was there to prevent checking for dead accessibles
> >         by asking an accessible object for its name. Due to how AT-SPI2
> >         works, this check is an excellent way to find them and ignore
> >         them. Finding and ignoring events from dead accessible objects
> >         quickly makes Orca much more performant.
> >         
> >         
> >         Unfortunately, this test was having a side effect in certain
> >         apps -- some other bug in those apps. And that side effect was
> >         causing Orca to not present events that it should. Therefore, I
> >         solved that side effect by not doing this particular check. The
> >         experimental setting was there to help debug the problem of why
> >         Orca wasn't presenting events it should. Once that answer was
> >         determined, the experiment hack was no longer needed.
> >         
> >         
> >         I get that Thunderbird is super slow when you have mail folders
> >         with tons of messages in them. That is why I filed
> >         https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=924915.
> >         
> >         
> >         On 4/28/20 09:25, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> >         
> > > Perhaps it's this old bug?
> > >           https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=924915
> > >           
> > >           
> > >           On 4/28/20 09:23, mattias wrote:
> > >           
> > > > yes but thunderbird are still unusable
> > > >             with gmail
> > > >             
> > > >             
> > > >             so this old thread:
> > > >             
> > > >             
> > > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2015-June/msg00119.html
> > > >             
> > > >             
> > > >             are still verry actual
> > > >             
> > > >             
> > > >             Den 2020-04-28 kl. 15:16, skrev Joanmarie Diggs:
> > > >             
> > > > > Before everyone tries this and says
> > > > >               they see no difference.... That message is from nearly
> > > > >               five years ago. The customization cited was just an
> > > > >               experiment for a bug that was not in Orca. And that
> > > > >               customization experiment was removed years ago.
> > > > >               
> > > > >               
> > > > >               --joanie
> > > > >               
> > > > >               
> > > > >               On 4/28/20 06:49, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> > > > >               
> > > > > > Hi.
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 You can find the orca-customizations.py at
> > > > > >                 ~/.local/share/orca/
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 On 4/28/20 3:58 AM, mattias via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > i found this fix for thunderbird
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2015-June/msg00121.html
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   but where is this pyc file located?
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   orca-customizations.py
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   _______________________________________________
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   orca-list mailing list
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   orca-list gnome org
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   Orca documentation:
> > > > > > >                   https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                   GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > > > > > >                   https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 _______________________________________________
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 orca-list mailing list
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 orca-list gnome org
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 Orca documentation:
> > > > > >                 https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > > > > >                 https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >                 
> > > > > >               
> > > > >               
> > > > >             
> > > >             
> > > >           
> > >           
> > >         
> >         
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         
> >         orca-list mailing list
> >         
> >         orca-list gnome org
> >         
> >         https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> >         
> >         Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> >         
> >         Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> >         
> >         GNOME Universal Access guide:
> >         https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> >         
> >       
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>       Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
>       
>       Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
>       
>       GNOME Universal Access guide:
>       https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
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