Re: [orca-list] problems to use alt+f2
- From: José Vilmar Estácio de Souza <vilmar informal com br>
- To: Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>, orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] problems to use alt+f2
- Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 10:13:22 -0300
I don't think so. I found an attach button, press that button and the
dialog to choose the file appeared. I chose the file, hit enter, and FF
returned to the page where the attach button was, as if the file had
been attached.
Thanks.
On 9/23/19 9:49 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
Note there's a weird issue I've not reported yet that likely isn't
Orca's fault. I notice that, in Firefox, when the standard open dialog
appears, I have to alt-tab out and into the window for focus to land
in it. Could that be your issue?
On 9/23/19 6:05 AM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
Hi Joanie.
to be honest I didn't understand how to attach a file.
On 9/23/19 7:46 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Hey José.
Thanks for doing this. The report contents look great, but I don't
see the attached file. There is an "Attach a file" button on that
page that causes the native file chooser to appear. Do you want to
give that a(nother) try, or shall I attach it?
--joanie
On 9/23/19 12:17 PM,
José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
Hi.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/1687
Not sure if I managed to upload the listener, could anyone check it?
Thanks.
On 9/23/19 5:31 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Ah. Orca probably consumed the keystroke before anything else
could get it. So you didn't do anything wrong. If you were in
focus mode or not in document content (e.g. but in a list of mail
folders or a list of messages), I think the arrow keys would show up.
Regardless, this output confirms my suspicions further. Could you
please file a bug against gnome-shell stating that keyboard events
are no longer emitted? You will want to provide steps to reproduce
that do not include Orca because this is not an Orca-related bug
(though it does have implications for Orca users). Attach the
listener to the bug so that the developers can try it for
themselves. Once you've filed the bug, please post it here so that
we can all track it.
Thanks again!!
--joanie
On 9/22/19 11:36 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
In attach the result, sorry for the delay.
What I did?
1. in the terminal I start the listener.
2. I returned to TB and press Up and Down.
3. I hit alt + f2, typed gedit, hit the spacebar, hit backspace
and hit return.
4. I typed "this is a test.' and hit return.
5. I Pressed up and down.
I didn't find the up and down keys in the log of the listner, am
I doing something wrong?
Thanks.
On 9/22/19 1:51 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Hey again.
I've attached an Orca-free listener (i.e. something which will
work without Orca to demonstrate the problem). Though using it
with Orca is fine.
Could you please perform the same steps as you did before to
launch gedit, but this time capture the output you get in the
terminal from which you run the attached listener?
Thanks again for all your help hunting this problem down!
--joanie
On 9/22/19 6:26 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
It's correct. And my theory appears to be correct. I see key
events from your arrowing in Thunderbird and I see key events
from your typing in Gedit. But I see nothing from your pressing
Alt+F2 and typing in the run dialog.
I will do some tests locally in a working session and then send
you an event listener.
--joanie
On 9/22/19 6:19 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
Doene, let me know if it is correct.
Thanks.
On 9/22/19 1:03 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
If the application launches, but Orca provides no feedback,
it suggests that Orca is not being notified of the keys you
are pressing. Orca needs these notifications for key echo,
and it also uses them as part of its logic to determine what
to echo when the caret moves (to determine how much of the
line it should speak).
Could you please capture me a full debug.out? In particular,
I'd be interested in seeing the following:
1. Press a key in firefox or thunderbird. Perhaps moving to
the next
line on a web page or in an email. This would be helpful
to see
that for other apps things are working as expected.
2. Press Alt+F2
3. Type the name of an app to launch and press Return
4. Do a quick task in the app you launched (type a few
characters or
get into a menu or press Tab to change focus. Again, to
see that
some key presses are being emitted).
If my hypothesis is correct, we'll see no key events from
step 3. And if that's the case, I'll make you an Orca-free
keystroke listener which you can use to see if you get the
same results. And if you do, then we can use that info to
file a bug.
Thanks for your help with this. Wish I could travel with
multiple computers....
--joanie
On 9/22/19 2:45 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
Hi all.
After upgrading to gnome 3.34, I can no longer reliably use
alt + f2 to launch an application.
I press alt + f2, start typing the name of the app but get
no feedback from the orca.
Even when I use the arrow keys to visit what was typed the
orca is muted.
Thanks.
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