Re: [orca-list] problems to use alt+f2

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Ah. Orca probably consumed the keystroke before anything else could get 
it. So you didn't do anything wrong. If you were in focus mode or not in 
document content (e.g. but in a list of mail folders or a list of 
messages), I think the arrow keys would show up.

Regardless, this output confirms my suspicions further. Could you please 
file a bug against gnome-shell stating that keyboard events are no 
longer emitted? You will want to provide steps to reproduce that do not 
include Orca because this is not an Orca-related bug (though it does 
have implications for Orca users). Attach the listener to the bug so 
that the developers can try it for themselves. Once you've filed the 
bug, please post it here so that we can all track it.

Thanks again!!
--joanie

On 9/22/19 11:36 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> In attach the result, sorry for the delay.
>
>
> What I did?
>
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> 1. in the terminal I start the listener.
>
> 2. I returned to TB and press Up and Down.
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> 3. I hit alt + f2, typed gedit, hit the spacebar, hit backspace and hit 
> return.
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> 4. I typed "this is a test.' and hit return.
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>
> 5. I Pressed up and down.
>
>
> I didn't find the up and down keys in the log of the listner, am I doing 
> something wrong?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On 9/22/19 1:51 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Hey again.
> >
> > I've attached an Orca-free listener (i.e. something which will work 
> > without Orca to demonstrate the problem). Though using it with Orca is 
> > fine.
> >
> > Could you please perform the same steps as you did before to launch 
> > gedit, but this time capture the output you get in the terminal from 
> > which you run the attached listener?
> >
> > Thanks again for all your help hunting this problem down!
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 9/22/19 6:26 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > It's correct. And my theory appears to be correct. I see key events 
> > > from your arrowing in Thunderbird and I see key events from your 
> > > typing in Gedit. But I see nothing from your pressing Alt+F2 and 
> > > typing in the run dialog.
> > >
> > > I will do some tests locally in a working session and then send you 
> > > an event listener.
> > >
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On 9/22/19 6:19 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> > > > Doene, let me know if it is correct.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/22/19 1:03 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > If the application launches, but Orca provides no feedback, it 
> > > > > suggests that Orca is not being notified of the keys you are 
> > > > > pressing. Orca needs these notifications for key echo, and it also 
> > > > > uses them as part of its logic to determine what to echo when the 
> > > > > caret moves (to determine how much of the line it should speak).
> > > > >
> > > > > Could you please capture me a full debug.out? In particular, I'd be 
> > > > > interested in seeing the following:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Press a key in firefox or thunderbird. Perhaps moving to the next
> > > > >    line on a web page or in an email. This would be helpful to see
> > > > >    that for other apps things are working as expected.
> > > > > 2. Press Alt+F2
> > > > > 3. Type the name of an app to launch and press Return
> > > > > 4. Do a quick task in the app you launched (type a few characters or
> > > > >    get into a menu or press Tab to change focus. Again, to see that
> > > > >    some key presses are being emitted).
> > > > >
> > > > > If my hypothesis is correct, we'll see no key events from step 3. 
> > > > > And if that's the case, I'll make you an Orca-free keystroke 
> > > > > listener which you can use to see if you get the same results. And 
> > > > > if you do, then we can use that info to file a bug.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your help with this. Wish I could travel with multiple 
> > > > > computers....
> > > > >
> > > > > --joanie
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/22/19 2:45 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After upgrading to gnome 3.34, I can no longer reliably use alt + 
> > > > > > f2 to launch an application.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I press alt + f2, start typing the name of the app but get no 
> > > > > > feedback from the orca.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Even when I use the arrow keys to visit what was typed the orca is 
> > > > > > muted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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