Re: [orca-list] problems to use alt+f2

[José Vilmar Estácio de Souza <vilmar informal com br>]

Hi.


https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/1687



Not sure if I managed to upload the listener, could anyone check it?

Thanks.


On 9/23/19 5:31 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Ah. Orca probably consumed the keystroke before anything else could 
> get it. So you didn't do anything wrong. If you were in focus mode or 
> not in document content (e.g. but in a list of mail folders or a list 
> of messages), I think the arrow keys would show up.
>
> Regardless, this output confirms my suspicions further. Could you 
> please file a bug against gnome-shell stating that keyboard events are 
> no longer emitted? You will want to provide steps to reproduce that do 
> not include Orca because this is not an Orca-related bug (though it 
> does have implications for Orca users). Attach the listener to the bug 
> so that the developers can try it for themselves. Once you've filed 
> the bug, please post it here so that we can all track it.
>
> Thanks again!!
> --joanie
>
> On 9/22/19 11:36 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> > In attach the result, sorry for the delay.
> >
> >
> > What I did?
> >
> >
> > 1. in the terminal I start the listener.
> >
> > 2. I returned to TB and press Up and Down.
> >
> > 3. I hit alt + f2, typed gedit, hit the spacebar, hit backspace and 
> > hit return.
> >
> > 4. I typed "this is a test.' and hit return.
> >
> >
> > 5. I Pressed up and down.
> >
> >
> > I didn't find the up and down keys in the log of the listner, am I 
> > doing something wrong?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > On 9/22/19 1:51 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > Hey again.
> > >
> > > I've attached an Orca-free listener (i.e. something which will work 
> > > without Orca to demonstrate the problem). Though using it with Orca 
> > > is fine.
> > >
> > > Could you please perform the same steps as you did before to launch 
> > > gedit, but this time capture the output you get in the terminal from 
> > > which you run the attached listener?
> > >
> > > Thanks again for all your help hunting this problem down!
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On 9/22/19 6:26 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > It's correct. And my theory appears to be correct. I see key events 
> > > > from your arrowing in Thunderbird and I see key events from your 
> > > > typing in Gedit. But I see nothing from your pressing Alt+F2 and 
> > > > typing in the run dialog.
> > > >
> > > > I will do some tests locally in a working session and then send you 
> > > > an event listener.
> > > >
> > > > --joanie
> > > >
> > > > On 9/22/19 6:19 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> > > > > Doene, let me know if it is correct.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/22/19 1:03 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > > If the application launches, but Orca provides no feedback, it 
> > > > > > suggests that Orca is not being notified of the keys you are 
> > > > > > pressing. Orca needs these notifications for key echo, and it 
> > > > > > also uses them as part of its logic to determine what to echo 
> > > > > > when the caret moves (to determine how much of the line it should 
> > > > > > speak).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could you please capture me a full debug.out? In particular, I'd 
> > > > > > be interested in seeing the following:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Press a key in firefox or thunderbird. Perhaps moving to the next
> > > > > >    line on a web page or in an email. This would be helpful to see
> > > > > >    that for other apps things are working as expected.
> > > > > > 2. Press Alt+F2
> > > > > > 3. Type the name of an app to launch and press Return
> > > > > > 4. Do a quick task in the app you launched (type a few characters or
> > > > > >    get into a menu or press Tab to change focus. Again, to see that
> > > > > >    some key presses are being emitted).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If my hypothesis is correct, we'll see no key events from step 3. 
> > > > > > And if that's the case, I'll make you an Orca-free keystroke 
> > > > > > listener which you can use to see if you get the same results. 
> > > > > > And if you do, then we can use that info to file a bug.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your help with this. Wish I could travel with multiple 
> > > > > > computers....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --joanie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/22/19 2:45 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > After upgrading to gnome 3.34, I can no longer reliably use alt 
> > > > > > > + f2 to launch an application.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I press alt + f2, start typing the name of the app but get no 
> > > > > > > feedback from the orca.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Even when I use the arrow keys to visit what was typed the orca 
> > > > > > > is muted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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