Re: [orca-list] Orca, FF and Youtube

[Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>]

Youtube started spewing recommended videos in a live region. I watch 
lots of Youtube Gaming and this annoys me to no end. Usually I bump up 
the volume a few notches after pressing Play, at which point the live 
region starts precisely when I don't want it to. It's kind of silly, 
because it isn't as if I can act on a spoken link, and if I want 
recommendations then I can actively engage with them vs. having them 
read over the audio. So not an Orca issue at all.


I wonder if the \ command would help here? I never really understood 
what that did--"Setting live region to polite/assertive/rude/off" is a 
bit ambiguous. Is this supposed to set all live regions to that level? 
Or only speak live regions at or above that level? Or only speak live 
regions above that level? Or make me coffee? I have no idea. :)


On 9/6/19 8:22 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hey Jace.
>
> I'm not seeing the sidebar spoken, but Orca is reading parts of the 
> page to me. In my case it's because Orca believes they are live region 
> messages. This leads me to a follow-up question. You said:
>
> > For comparison, I set NVDA up on a
> > different computer the exact same way re: reading pages automatically.
> > It does the same thing.
>
> Do you mean that NVDA is showing the same behavior as Orca? In other 
> words, in both cases you are telling the screen reader to not speak 
> this stuff and in both cases the screen reader (NVDA and Orca) are 
> each speaking the unwanted stuff? If that's the case, then I guess 
> it's probably a change in YouTube. If that's not the case and you mean 
> something else, please clarify.
>
> --joanie
>
> On 9/6/19 1:39 PM, Jace Kattalakis via orca-list wrote:
> > Hey list, ran across this the other day and wanted to know if it's 
> > just me.
> >
> > Running the latest orca-master, latest Firefox.
> >
> > If I go to Youtube and launch a video, it speaks the page even when I 
> > have that option turned off. For comparison, I set NVDA up on a 
> > different computer the exact same way re: reading pages 
> > automatically. It does the same thing. Is it an Orca/atspi issue, or 
> > did Youtube change something on their end?
> >
> > TO reproduce:
> >
> > 1. Open Firefox, and then Orca prefs. Turn off the present summary of 
> > a page... and automatically start speaking... options.
> >
> >
> > 2. Go to youtube.com and load up any video
> >
> >
> > 3. You should hear the contents of the page (in my case the sidebar) 
> > being read out automatically
> >
> >
> > Sienote: I've had issues with hitting control to silence Orca, 
> > sometimes, and it *might* just be a Firefox issue, Youtube's page 
> > starts speaking after I've pressed a key to silence it, for example 
> > test video level three *press shift or control* test video 2 level 3. 
> > I have to press control multiple times to silence Youtube.
> >
> > Anyone else run into this or is it just me?
> >
> > Jace
> >
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