Re: [orca-list] Any idea what's happening here?

[Michał Zegan <webczat_200 poczta onet pl>]

Pro tip. It was documented when gnome-shell was in late development I
believe, not sure if it still is, but it works.
Pressing alt+f2, and in the run bar typing the command "restart" will
cause gnome-shell to restart itself.
This helps with the mentioned problem I believe, I had it present a few
times already here.

W dniu 15.11.2019 o 17:18, Joanmarie Diggs pisze:
> Not sure. But here's what I see in your debug.out:
>
> You're in Thunderbird in a message. A notification comes in ("it'll
> eventually replace riot-android") and Orca presents it.
>
> Thunderbird then emits a window:deactivate event. This tells Orca you're
> not in that Thunderbird window any more. I'm guessing this is happening
> because gnome-shell is emitting a window:activate event which tells Orca
> that you're in gnome-shell. gnome-shell then tells orca a bush button
> whose name is "settings" is focused. That looks like the window
> switcher. I don't see any keyboard events though. Did you get into the
> window switcher yourself?
>
> Then in gnome-shell an object with role window claims to be focused.
>
> After that, Thunderbird claims to be focused again and you're back in a
> message composition window.
>
> If that reflects your experience, then I guess it would be nice if
> windows were not getting activated and deactivated each time a
> notification came in.
>
> That said, rebooting seems a little extreme. Presumably there is a
> process hanging around in the background that you could kill without
> having to do that.
>
> On 11/15/19 10:16 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > Not sure if Orca can do anything about this, and I'm not immediately
> > sure what triggers it, but this time I captured a debug.out. Sometimes
> > I'll have an app open that sends desktop notifications, and will close
> > it with Alt-F4. I imagine some of these apps continue running in the
> > background--the Riot desktop IM client, in this instance. But whereas
> > previous notifications spoke nicely, any future notifications
> > (presumably from the closed app but I can't be sure) yank focus from
> > wherever it is, throw it in a panel somewhere for a second or so, then
> > return it to the app. I don't know if there is a different
> > notification style for apps without an open window, but the only
> > solution I've found is a reboot. Kind of hard to debug a thing if
> > focus keeps bouncing out of the terminal, browser, etc. you're using
> > for a second or so several times a minute. :)
> >
> >
> > This morning when I discovered the new details I reported on the Riot
> > issue, I closed its desktop app and immediately noticed this behavior.
> > While typing the previous message, I relaunched Orca with debug
> > logging, sat around for a few seconds, and caught a log of this. Maybe
> > nothing can be done about it, but I thought I'd ask. :)
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > https://send.firefox.com/download/1ff29a25e5b127cf/#dzSFAaRwo2Mic464CQ8gQg
> >
> >
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