Re: [orca-list] Any idea what's happening here?

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

This is actually a good protip. Though you don't even have to type out 
"restart". "r" should suffice.

I have found it also comes in handy when your systems seems to become 
less responsive with Orca. While I've never been able to make it happen 
deliberately, gnome-shell sometimes creates accessible objects which it 
never destroys. So they just keep building up like plaque on teeth which 
never get brushed. When Orca goes looking for things in gnome-shell, it 
has to wade through all of them. :-/

--joanie

On 11/15/19 11:34 AM, Michał Zegan wrote:
> Pro tip. It was documented when gnome-shell was in late development I
> believe, not sure if it still is, but it works.
> Pressing alt+f2, and in the run bar typing the command "restart" will
> cause gnome-shell to restart itself.
> This helps with the mentioned problem I believe, I had it present a few
> times already here.
>
> W dniu 15.11.2019 o 17:18, Joanmarie Diggs pisze:
> > Not sure. But here's what I see in your debug.out:
> >
> > You're in Thunderbird in a message. A notification comes in ("it'll
> > eventually replace riot-android") and Orca presents it.
> >
> > Thunderbird then emits a window:deactivate event. This tells Orca you're
> > not in that Thunderbird window any more. I'm guessing this is happening
> > because gnome-shell is emitting a window:activate event which tells Orca
> > that you're in gnome-shell. gnome-shell then tells orca a bush button
> > whose name is "settings" is focused. That looks like the window
> > switcher. I don't see any keyboard events though. Did you get into the
> > window switcher yourself?
> >
> > Then in gnome-shell an object with role window claims to be focused.
> >
> > After that, Thunderbird claims to be focused again and you're back in a
> > message composition window.
> >
> > If that reflects your experience, then I guess it would be nice if
> > windows were not getting activated and deactivated each time a
> > notification came in.
> >
> > That said, rebooting seems a little extreme. Presumably there is a
> > process hanging around in the background that you could kill without
> > having to do that.
> >
> > On 11/15/19 10:16 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > > Not sure if Orca can do anything about this, and I'm not immediately
> > > sure what triggers it, but this time I captured a debug.out. Sometimes
> > > I'll have an app open that sends desktop notifications, and will close
> > > it with Alt-F4. I imagine some of these apps continue running in the
> > > background--the Riot desktop IM client, in this instance. But whereas
> > > previous notifications spoke nicely, any future notifications
> > > (presumably from the closed app but I can't be sure) yank focus from
> > > wherever it is, throw it in a panel somewhere for a second or so, then
> > > return it to the app. I don't know if there is a different
> > > notification style for apps without an open window, but the only
> > > solution I've found is a reboot. Kind of hard to debug a thing if
> > > focus keeps bouncing out of the terminal, browser, etc. you're using
> > > for a second or so several times a minute. :)
> > >
> > >
> > > This morning when I discovered the new details I reported on the Riot
> > > issue, I closed its desktop app and immediately noticed this behavior.
> > > While typing the previous message, I relaunched Orca with debug
> > > logging, sat around for a few seconds, and caught a log of this. Maybe
> > > nothing can be done about it, but I thought I'd ask. :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > https://send.firefox.com/download/1ff29a25e5b127cf/#dzSFAaRwo2Mic464CQ8gQg
> > >
> > >
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