Re: [orca-list] Can Orca help with access to this crappy HTML?

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hey Nolan.

I brushed off my turd polisher just for you. <grins>

Using Orca master, you should now be able to do the following on the 
page in question:

1. See all the clickable items in the list of clickables dialog
2. Activate a given clickable via that dialog (be sure to press
   the Activate button rather than just move there)
3. Navigate amongst all of the clickables via A / Shift+A
4. Use Orca's click command to activate the current clickable (reminder,
   that's Caps Lock + 7 or KP Slash depending on your layout)
5. Hear all the clickables when arrowing within the table using caret
   navigation commands
6. Hear all the clickables when using cell navigation

Some notes on the page-specific interaction:

In the page in question, the first row ("admin") has a clickable in each 
cell with a checkbox displayed. When you click on these with the mouse, 
nothing happens. However there is an accessible click action for those 
items. I have no way of knowing via what's exposed to me that clicking 
on them won't actually do anything.

In contrast, clicking on any of the cells in the second row does do 
something. Initially it puts focus on the "enter new role" entry if 
there is not yet any text there.

Once there's text in the "enter new role" entry, clicking on the cells 
in the second row cause new stuff to appear beneath the table, but no 
widget in that new stuff claims focus. Only the "enter new role" entry 
loses focus. Yay. You just have to know the stuff is there and then 
arrow or Tab to it.

Anyhoo, with any luck this particular turd is sufficiently shined up to 
at least be moderately usable now.

Please let me know what you find. Thanks!
--joanie

On 5/15/19 12:52 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> Sorry, minor correction. The crappy HTML in question can be found here:
>
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> https://hasuraaccessibility.herokuapp.com/console/data/schema/public/tables/test/permissions 
>
>
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
> On 5/14/19 5:49 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > Stuck using this tech in a current job so I hope so.
> >
> >
> > If you visit 
> > https://hasuraaccessibility.herokuapp.com/console/data/schema/public/tables/test/modify 
> > you'll go directly to the screen in question. It has a table with some 
> > elements I need to click. The elements and their content are 
> > inaccessible, but NVDA at least presents them as "column 3: clickable, 
> > column 4: clickable, ..." and I can arrow to and theoretically 
> > interact with them.
> >
> >
> > Does Orca get enough from Firefox to at least make the fact that empty 
> > clickables are located in those particular cells?
> >
> >
> > And is there any way to accessibly interact with these? I've tried 
> > Enter and simulated left-clicks in NVDA, but either nothing happens or 
> > something does and I can't see it. I know Orca can't necessarily 
> > polish a turd, but maybe it can at least soften it. :P
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
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