Re: [orca-list] DBus Broker and orca/ ATK / AT-SPI?

[Peter Vágner <pvagner pvagner tk>]

Hello,


Here is my debug log: https://files.pvagner.tk/f/24470182589d4253b01b/?dl=1


It went like this:

* I have started recording the log when focused on a collapsed folder 
list in thunderbird

* I have pressed right arrow to expand.

* There is some expanded event in the log, keyboard events and a few 
name change events. That's all expected I think.

* Then I'm pressing down arrow key.

* From this moment it gets interesting. I suspect Thunderbird becomes 
crazy, orca receives some content change events from the terminal window 
where I have started thunderbird from,

then it receives some more events from thunderbird not being able to 
retrieve object states assuming the focused object is dead.

* Then it looks like I may have stripped out a part of the log because 
more than a minute there is nothing added into it. I promise I haven't 
modified it.

* During those moments I have pressed ctrl key perhaps each 20 seconds 
or so to find out if orca is responding or not.

* Finally I have pressed blindly left arrow key several times to 
collapse folders tree view, exited thunderbird by pressing ctrl+q, 
pressed left and right arrow keys several times to make sure thunderbird 
is closed and the underlying terminal window is in focus, closed the 
terminal window by typing in exit and pressing enter, landed on another 
terminal window where I have started orca from and pressed ctrl+c to 
exit orca.

I was doing all this with no feetback from orca doing it all blindly so 
the description might be a bit rough.


I am afraid there is very little that can be done about it but 
newertheless I tried to describe the situation as best as I can.

If you think I might try something else or describe some steps better, 
please let me know.


Greetings


Peter





Dňa 10. 5. 2019 o 12:22 Joanmarie Diggs napísal(a):
> Hey Peter.
>
> Could you please send me a full debug.out when the problem is occurring?
> I don't know if I'll be able to do anything, but I'll certainly take a look.
>
> Thanks!
> --joanie
>
> On 5/9/19 3:13 PM, Peter Vágner via orca-list wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > I have figured out a way that works this around for me.
> >
> >
> > The problem is that I have multiple accounts in thunderbird. Two of them
> > have more than 10000 messages in the inbox folder and one has only about
> > 100 messages in inbox.
> >
> >
> > I like to collapse all the folders before exiting thunderbird so when it
> > starts no folder is opened.
> >
> >
> > My original steps were as follows:
> >
> > 0) Start thunderbird with all folders collabsed in the list of message
> > folders.
> >
> > 1) Focus folder list, hold down ctrl key and find the account I wish to
> > read.
> >
> > 2) Release the ctrl key and press right arrow key to expand the account.
> >
> > 3) Press the down arrow key to select inbox for that account.
> >
> >
> > Results:
> >
> > No more accessibility interaction unless I kill thunderbird and restart
> > orca by calling orca --replace .
> >
> >
> > Workaround:
> >
> > If I won't press down arrow in step 3 to navigate to a folder with too
> > many messages and navigate to a different folder with only a few
> > messages inside instead all is working fine and I can browse all folders
> > no matter how many messages there are in those folders.
> >
> > DBUS broker is really a life changer as I can really navigate even huge
> > mail folders containing more than 70000 messages.
> >
> > So it looks as if initial folder focused immediatelly when connecting to
> > the server affects this.
> >
> > Also I have configured all my accounts not to cache messages offline. I
> > am not sure but I suspect this might be important also.
> >
> >
> > So finally workaround is found and I can live with it until something
> > else breaks in sucha a way I will have more issues.
> >
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dňa 15. 4. 2019 o 7:24 Peter Vágner via orca-list napísal(a):
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I'm running Thunderbird daily currently at version 68.
> > >
> > > I'll try the stable version later today to see if I'll be getting
> > > these lockups with that version too.
> > >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > > Dňa April 15, 2019 1:34:05 AM UTC používateľ "José Vilmar Estácio de
> > > Souza" <vilmar informal com br> napísal:
> > >
> > >      I am using dbus-broker and until now no lockups here.
> > >
> > >
> > >      On 4/14/19 4:18 PM, chrys wrote:
> > > >      lockups here.
> > >      --
> > >      Assinatura Informal José Vilmar, Telefones: 21 2555-2650 e 21
> > >      98868-0859, Skype: jvilmar
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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