[orca-list] Fwd: console based screen readers



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Von: Chrys <chrys linux-a11y org>
Datum: 8. Juli 2019 um 23:40:33 MESZ
An: Dave Hunt <dahunt posteo de>
Betreff: Aw:⁨ [orca-list] console based screen readers⁩

Howdy Dave,

Hard to answer ;) depends on the used modules. The VCSA module is designed to run in background. For this fenrir provides
fenrir-daemon

The PTY emulation, i got inspiration here  from yasrs concept (thanks for the great idea!) plays mostly man in the middle and you need to run fenrir as non daemon (to spawn it in foreground). Its also useful to trace and debug  stuff and see in realtime what fenrir currently does.

fenrir-daemon executable  provides the same functionality as „fenrir“ executable but only the way it spawns is different.

Cheers chrys

Am 08.07.2019 um 22:59 schrieb Dave Hunt via orca-list <orca-list gnome org>:

Isn't Fenrir designed to run as a system service? It does so in Slint and other distros I may not know about.  I'll try this in Debian:  "sudo systemctl start fenrir", once it and dependencies are installed. 



-Dave  H.




On 7/8/19 4:21 PM, James Austin via orca-list wrote:

Hi folks

On 08/07/2019 20:34, Storm Dragon wrote:

I'm not sure how easy it is to get Fenrir running on Ubuntu though, this may be the one drawback.

I am running ubuntu Mate 18.04 LTS and am running Fenrir successfully.


Once you have all   dependencies installed, the trick to get speech working for me in the console, was to run Fenrir with sudo.


You can run the following from a graphical terminal and then swtich to a console with Control+AltFF1 through F6:


sudo fenrir


I am still working on running  Fenrir without needing sudo and have also had some success using Fenrir with the 'e' option. This allows Fenrir to run in the graphical terminal.


Running sudo fenrir-daemon also runs Fenrrir as a background process, allowing you to use your terminal for other things while Fenrir is running. Just remember to turn off Orca when in the terminal.


Best

James

Howdy Norman,

This is another good reason to use Fenrir. There is a script you can run in /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configurepulse.sh that will make it so you will have sound in the console.

I'm not sure how easy it is to get Fenrir running on Ubuntu though, this may be the one drawback.

Thanks,
Storm

On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 11:57:35AM -0400, Norman wrote:
Hi.

I use the defaults for ubuntu mate 18.04


On 7/6/19 2:32 PM, Didier Spaier wrote:
Hello Norman,

The ability of Orca to to read aloud what's displayed on a terminal
mostly depends on which terminal is used.

So which one do you use? And which distribution/version?

Generally speaking, console based apps can benefit of console screen
readers like speakup, fenrir or speechd-up that are intended to be used
in a console, not in a graphical environment.
Their availability depends on which distribution and version you use.

However, from a quick look at the screenshots provided by the project I
am not optimistic as a lot of information are displayed on sub-windows,
including arrays between them and I don't know how a screen reader can
present this information (I am sighted).

Good luck,

Didier

On 7/6/19 8:03 PM, Norman wrote:
Hello all.

I sometimes need to use a terminal based program called sngrep to trace voip calls from my personal pbx. However, orca struggles with this program, it doesn't read everything and scrolling is a big issue. I was wondering, are there any helpful tips people have when using orca with console based programs? or would a second screen reader like speakup do better at this?

I'd like to try speakup and find out but can't find any good docs on how to make it work.

Can anyone help?


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