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Re: [orca-list] Speech-dispatcher Upgrade Broken on Arch

Hello,

It should work like this on Arch linux.
* User starts orca.
* Orca uses python-speechd to communicate to user specific speech-dispatcher instance. If speech-dispatcher is not yet running, it will spawn it automagically.
* Speech-dispatcher will start and try to load either all available output modules or those configured in either system-wide config or user specific speech-dispatcher config.
* By default speech-dispatcher is configured to play TTS sound via pulseaudio.
* As soon as speech-dispatcher has to produce audio it tries to connect to the user session specific pulseaudio instance by using libpulse. On Arch linux auto spawn is disabled in the pulseaudio configuration however pulseaudio is inwoked via systemd socket activation as soon as it's needed.

So if you still have issues you need to understand what I'm trying to explain to you, poke at your system before starting orca, identify your sound devices are working as they should, if yes then find out if speech-dispatcher and pulseaudio are running prior to starting orca, if they are already running, can they produce sound, start orca, poke at your system again exploring speech-dispatcher and pulseaudio processes and their logs taking into account what we are talking about here.
Also this is all with the default arch linux configuration i.e. no changes to speech-dispatcher and pulseaudio config files including system-wide and user specific configs. If you have tweaked the configs you need to take into account what you have tweaked in there while troubleshooting all this.

I'm really sorry I can't really diagnose this for you as it is all working fine for me on three different Arch linux installs I've tried this on so far.
I will be installing Arch on a brand new machine in a few days, so if I discover something usefull I will report it.

Greetings

Peter

Dňa January 8, 2019 9:42:00 AM UTC používateľ Didier Spaier <didier slint fr> napísal:
This just means that either speech-dispatcher doesn't know where is the socket (the file to be accessed to 'talk' to pulseaudio), or is not allowed to access pulseaudio

There can be many reasons for that, but first please answer these already asked questions:
Which exact command do you type to start speech-dispatcher?
Why not just let Orca start speech-dispatcher which will then connect itself to pulseaudio (or to another sound server, depending of its settings)?
  

On 08/01/2019 09:11, Arkadiusz Kozioł wrote:
Just I wrote, that I have an error logs, that sd_espeak_ng or another can not connect to the pulse audio. WHat more do you need from me to try to help me?

W dniu 06.01.2019 o 20:09, Mallard pisze:
 Thank you, Peter.


 How can I get to the log, please?


 Ciao,

 Ollie




 Il 06/01/2019 20:26, Peter Vágner via orca-list ha scritto:
 Hello,

 I'm sorry I really have no further suggestions without looking into the logs as I've tried to explain.

 greetings

 Peter



 Dňa January 6, 2019 5:44:52 PM UTC používateľ "Arkadiusz Kozioł" <zywek-mailing nvps pl> napísal:

     I have the newest version of espeak-ng from community repositoryy and I
     can not use my Arch.

     W dniu 03.01.2019 o 16:56, Peter Vágner pisze:

         Hello, The issue with upgrading to speech-dispatcher 0.8.8-3
         is that you should run up to date espeak-ng rather than espeak
         or possibly out dated version of espeak-ng. Or have you
         ensured you have up to date espeak-ng and the issue still
         persists? Greetings Peter Dňa 2019-01-03 13:12 Arkadiusz
         Kozioł napísal(a):

             I'm using Archlinux, speech dispatcher 0.8.8-2 which it's
             working, 0.8.8-3 not works, the newest version of
             pulseaudio, sounds are playing, so pulse works, only
             speechd can not connect to. W dniu 02.01.2019 o 20:30,
             Austin Seraphin pisze:

                 Thanks Peter! I didn't realize that espeak-ng made it
                 into Community. Good! Installing espeak-ng and
                 updating speechd.conf fixed the problem and things
                 sound great. I think it might even act a little
                 snappier. On 1/1/19 10:37 AM, Peter Vágner wrote:
                 Hello, speech-dispatcher 0.8.8-3 and libspeechd
                 0.8.8-3 are just Arch linux specific rebuilds of the
                 package. There are no new upstream changes. Arch linux
                 specific change is that they officially require
                 espeak-ng instead of espeak. Is it possible you do
                 have some older version of eSpeak-ng installed from
                 the AUR that may cause incompatibility? If you wish to
                 live on bleeding edge, please reinstall espeak-ng-git
                 from the AUR, otherwise install espeak-ng from the
                 community repo. sudo pacman -S espeak-ng If this is
                 still not working for you, please look at the logs
                 reading one of these files depending on how you are
                 starting speech-dispatcher: /run/user/`id
                 -u`/speech-dispatcher/log/speech-dispatcher.log
 ~/.cache/speech-dispatcher/log/speech-dispatcher.log
                 Hopefully by doing this you can find out what is going
                 on on your system. For me this is all working great as
                 I'm running up to date espeak-ng-git. Greetings Peter
                 Dňa 1. 1. 2019 o 15:34 José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
                 napísal(a): I found exactly the same. On 12/31/18
                 11:30 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote: Hello. I decided to
                 upgrade my Arch Linux system for the year's end and
                 when I rebooted I found that Orca no longer worked.
                 The spd-say command didn't work either, so I narrowed
                 it down to speech-dispatcher. I noticed that this
                 upgrade did have a new version, 0.8.8-3. I downgraded
                 speech-dispatcher and libspeechd to 0.8.8-2 and
                 rebooted. The system worked. I wonder what has
                 changed. I wanted to alert everyone. -- Assinatura
                 Informal
                 orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org
 https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca
                 wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca
                 documentation:
                 https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ GNOME
                 Universal Access guide:
 https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
                 Log bugs and feature requests at
                 http://bugzilla.gnome.org
             -- Austin Seraphin: https://AustinSeraphin.com
             orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org
             https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca
             wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca
             documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
             GNOME Universal Access guide:
 https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
             Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
             orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org
             https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca
             wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca
             documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
             GNOME Universal Access guide:
 https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
             Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
     orca-list mailing list
     orca-list gnome org
     https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
     Orca wiki:https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
     Orca documentation:https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
     GNOME Universal Access guide:https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
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