Re: [orca-list] Audio Production with Orca: Incredibly! In? credibly! interested for comments!

[Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>]

I hadn't heard of nama, but it looks interesting.

I can report that ecasound is both mature and very accessible, because
it's a command line tool. I've used it, though I do not claim expertise
in it. It's not trivial to learn, which is why Julien created nama, I
guess. Makes sense to me.

There's also a lot that can be accomplished with sox on the command
line.

I keep hoping Rosegarden may provide us midi sequencer access, but I
guess it isn't quite there yet, either.

, Unequivocally, if you're after a full DAW, Linux ain't your platform.

PS: Planet CCRMA is a Fedora based set of music making tools, originally
a spin of Fedora, now more tightly integrated into the Fedora platform.

I'm not certain because I moved from Fedora to Arch a few years ago, I
believe they still build Linux kernels optimized for low latency audio
work, as well as various apps for working with various aspects of audio
and music-making:

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/

Note that Speakup has never been successfully compiled agaist the CCRMA
kernel source, afaik, but I believe a CCRMA kernel should work with
Fenrir.

If, on the other hand, you're interested in algorithmic music making,
look at csound.

In other words, there are things you can do accessibly on Linux, but
usually not in the graphical desktop. And, the things you can accomplish
in Linux aren't the usual pop music production kinds of tasks associated
with using a DAW.


That shouldn't stop you, of course. It's a question of what aspect of
music making you want to develop as your expertise. If you look at the
production credits on music releases, even on audio book releases,
you'll see multiple studios credited in the process. The studios and
engineers that recorded, often aren't the same people who mixed, even in
audio books.

I've mentioned algorithmic music making. There's also the area of
instrument synthesis, bot the creation, editing, and storage
(librarianship) of sound fonts, along with hooking them up to keyboards,
guitars, or other controllers for live, or recording work. Yet an
entirely different area of expertise and applications.

Ultimately, once you decide what you want to focus on in music making,
you may next need to soncider whether your loyalty is to music making or
to a particular computing platform.

PPS: If you say open source is your loyalty, these days you also have to
consider Mac and Windows, as those folks increasingly adopting open
source on those platforms, sometimes all the way up to the corporate
headquarters.

Good luck!

Janina




Orca screen reader developers writes:
> Hello,
>
> I am afraid there is nothing as usefull as Reaper, Adobe Audition,
> Soundforge are on windows or protools is on mac for linux I am afraid.
> There is an attempt to port reaper to linux, however accessibility is not
> implemented there. Porting osara would require rewriting much out of it as
> on windows it's dependant on windows specific APIs.
> Audacity is good however again accessibility is not as good as it's on
> windows because underlying toolkit wx-gtk is not completelly accessible on
> linux.
> Rosegarden is a QT5 based app. Main window is accessible so are the menus,
> however I either need help when trying to make some good use out of it or
> the accessibility is not sufficient.
>
> What I haven't looked in details at yet is nama. A text mode and graphical
> DAW Jeanette and perhaps some other blind people are able to make some
> really good use of.
> See here for the starting point... http://juliencoder.de/nama/index.html
>
> Another great source of material for music producers might be this guide for
> KXStudio. I think that's a distribution suitable for those who are taking
> audio production seriously on linux:
> https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/kxstudio_manual . I don't think there is
> something accessibility related though.
>
> Greetings
>
> Peter
>
>
> Dňa 6. 2. 2019 o 2:29 Christopher Gilland via orca-list napísal(a):
> > I'm definitely familiar on Windows with things like Reaper, and such,
> > and on the mac, my prefered platform right now for audio production
> > work, there's ProTools, but I'm curious,
> >
> >
> > On Linux, I obviously know about audasity, which, don't get me wrong, is
> > OK, but I'm finding it to not give all the feature sets I'm needing. As
> > least not in a way I can grasp.
> >
> >
> > A while back, I heard of a package for Linux, which is in the default
> > sources.list apt repo called Rosegarden, but I've admittedly back in the
> > days not had a huge amount of luck with it.
> >
> >
> > I was curious if we have any audio gooroos on this list who may have
> > either tried it, or something there similar.
> >
> >
> > Here are basically the main things I'd require of a good DAW like this
> > one, if it be doable accessibly with this, or anything else.
> >
> >
> > 1. Must, and I repeat with no exceptions, be able to multi-track both
> > audio as well as midi with virtual instruments/soundfonts, either/or
> >
> >
> > 2. Have various FX for both midi and audio such as EQ, compression,
> > reverb/delay, etc, as well as ways to tweak their settings.
> >
> >
> > 3. Ways to create, of sort, auxiliary input send/receive busses
> >
> >
> > 4. Must, and I repeat, absolutely must! have accessible ways to edit
> > audio fully from deleting, copying/cutting, pasting, ripple deleting,
> > etc..
> >
> >
> > 5. Definitely not a requirement, but a bonus would be to have write,
> > touch, and latch automation abilities to audio tracks
> >
> >
> > 6. Ways to read peek meters, and their active DB input levels to insure
> > no clipping
> >
> >
> > 7. Again, not a requirement, but very last and not  least, if not
> > automatic, at least manual fading abilities on a track per track basis,
> > or over the entire master fader. Preferably saw, square, and lennier
> > shapes..
> >
> >
> > I know for a fact that Rosegarden has all of this, but like I said, I'm
> > not having much luck with it and Orca. If anyone has, and maybe can give
> > some pointers, it would be great!
> >
> >
> > Feel free to write off list if needed.
> >
> >
> > clgilland07 gmail com
> >
> >
> > Chris.
> >
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-- 

Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:       http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures        http://www.w3.org/wai/apa