Re: [orca-list] text console use

[Jace Kattalakis <khalfang1366 gmail com>]

Mps-Youtube is now one of my new favorite little programs...though 
infuriatingly it trips up on longer videos annoyingly. Ah well I'l just 
get the URL for those and put them through Youtube-dl...though I'm stil 
saying I'd rather have both a graphical desktop and a console 
personally. Best of both worlds so you can do absolutely everything. 
I'll admit..I grew up on DOS but that had its limits though. I'm firmly 
of the opinion  Windows 1/2/3/3/11 were made for one purpose and 
everything after that on the MS side sort of went downhil post XP, or 
post 98 if you're feeling particularly mean about 2000/ME/Vista etc

Stil, over here in Linux land I'd stil rather show a new user a desktop 
and ease them gently into a terminal rather than instal and have them 
ask me what to do at a console on a fresh installed system personally. 
Then again I'm of the opinion good easy to grasp systems are a must for 
any OS. I'll just point to Vista and the smoldering pile that was its 
launch. Or I'll point to Ubuntu's mainline launch for 18.04. It 
was....rocky. Yet the other flavors didn't have as many issues mind..


On 13/10/18 14:21, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I may have jumped the shark on this one, I'll have to go through my
> .mailcap file on another system backup to find out for sure.
>
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018, Didier Spaier wrote:
>
> > Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:58:55
> > From: Didier Spaier <didier slint fr>
> > To: orca-list gnome org
> > Subject: Re: [orca-list] text console use
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Jude, which is this right .mailcap entry please?
> >
> > I ask because I know that Philippe uses mps-youtube and
> > I don't know if he is aware of this.
> >
> > On 10/13/18 2:45 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > lynx can play youtube with the right .mailcap entry.
> > > On Sat, 13 Oct 2018,
> > > Jace Kattalakis via orca-list wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 00:56:19
> > > > From: Jace Kattalakis via orca-list <orca-list gnome org>
> > > > Reply-To: Jace Kattalakis <khalfang1366 gmail com>
> > > > To: orca-list gnome org
> > > > Subject: Re: [orca-list] text console use
> > > >
> > > > You find me a CLI browser that can do webRTC and play Youtube without a
> > > > graphical environment, and I may change my tune but I'd argue a graphical
> > > > environment is easir to grab for everyone unless you're stupidly old school
> > > > and grew up on Commodore and DOS stuff.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12/10/18 20:13, Didier Spaier wrote:
> > > > > Funnily I would tend to ask the opposite question: why a blind person would
> > > > > need a graphical environment?
> > > > >
> > > > > I know at least one blind Slint users who never use one.
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe that most things done in a graphical environment can also be done
> > > > > in a console, often with a better productivity. This stands for blind as
> > > > > well as sighted people.
> > > > >
> > > > > A few examples: for writing you have a lot of text and code editors like
> > > > > nano, emacs and vim, mutt for emails, lynx and links for web browsing,
> > > > > mplayer to listen to music, vlc to listen to movies, crafty to play chess,
> > > > > games like freeswipe or scribble, the list goes on and on.
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually the first personal computer I used nearly 40 years ago didn't have
> > > > > a graphical environment, maybe that's why I am used to text mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > >
> > > > > Didier
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/12/18 7:48 PM, Michael Weaver via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > > I don't know if this is the right list to ask on as it is not strictly Orca
> > > > > > but it is about text screenreaders but is text console use still necessary.
> > > > > > I am not quite clear on this point. The reason is that you can use the
> > > > > > terminals in gnome, Mate or maybe other desktops like mate-terminal from an
> > > > > > alt F2 run prompt which is why I ask about text consoles, your CTRL ALT F1
> > > > > > to F6 which don't speak with Orca so need a different screenreader.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just curious with projects like Fenrir.
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