Re: [orca-list] Orca doesn't announce heading despite I can navigate by heading
- From: Peter Vágner <pvagner pvagner tk>
- To: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>, Alex ARNAUD <alexarnaud hypra fr>
- Cc: Orca List <orca-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca doesn't announce heading despite I can navigate by heading
- Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 14:00:37 +0200
Hello,
It is difficult to decide what's most significant issue affecting this.
I do have a few points to think about:
* There is a list of articles with headings, image figures, short
excerpts and some other meta data such as categories, time posted and
similar.
* The experience for sighted readers is that they are attracted by the
image figures, they can see the excerpt and they can hover the heading
link to see the title.
* So from screen reader user's point of view before considering
accessibility there are two focusable links pointing to the same target
(full article) the first one has no text but a title that translates to
accessible description and the second one has unlabelled image.
* When thinking on how to make this more accessible there are multiple
options with its pros and cons.
* The site authors opted to use aria-label on the first link which makes
the link somewhat accessible but causes the parent heading not to be
reported and aria-label don't allow screen reader users to navigate over
the text thus making both links be presented as one character long nodes.
I don't know if this is a bug or where the problem might be but removing
the aria-label makes the heading reported correctly. It can even be
navigated through. I guess they wanted to override the text for some
links for screen reader users so it's why they have added aria-label.
For complementing what's already accessible adding textual element such
as <span /> and styling it so it's rendered outside the viewport would
be more powerfull I'd say.
Let's see if there is a way on how to work this around.
Greetings
Peter
Dňa 29.05.2018 o 13:40 Joanmarie Diggs napísal(a):
I'll take a look. Thanks for the report!
--joanie
On 05/29/2018 07:32 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
Just a mistake on the subject, it's Orca doesn't announce heading
despite I can navigate by heading
Best regards,
Alex.
Le 29/05/2018 à 11:44, Alex ARNAUD a écrit :
Hello all,
Environment:
- Debian Sid
- Firefox 60
- Orca master
Steps to reproduce:
1) Open http://www.lefigaro.fr/
2) Press the key to navigate to the next heading
Result: Orca announces the title followed by link
Expected result: Orca should announce the title followed by link
followed by the header level
Best regards.
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