[orca-list] Apology, was: RE: Dear God, I hope this isn't true!



Firstly,

I wasn't trying at all to start a flame war, and if Nolan or anyone else took it as such, then please allow 
me to extend my apology. All that I was simply saying was, I thought that could be a concern, as think of it 
this way. Number 1, I know that the prebuilds of Orca which Joni maintains are on Github for the source. Why 
do you think when we want to download them, we use git, and we git clone, like this:

git clone https://github.com/gnome/orca

If I'm confused, then my apology.

My concern was, if Microsoft does take over Github, which I'm not saying they will nor won't. This is why I 
was asking if that was a rumor, or was official. I never once proclaimed this as pure gospel. Anyway, if they 
do indeed take over, then anything could happen. The website interface could change. The API's could change, 
etc. So yes, it could effect not  so much Linux accessibility, nor Orca accessibility, as much as it could 
effect needing to find a simpiler platform to host the master branch etc. Again though, I don't claim to know 
everything. I could be completely confused, and I'll be the very first to admit that as a huge possibility. 
I'm willing to be stood corrected.

As for the person who wrote in saying is this the end of accessibility for Linux, I say absolutely not! NO! 
One way or another, I'm sure backup plans could and would, for that mind, be utilized if something extreme 
was to happen. So yeah... No... I never meant to imply that Linux accessibility would cease. I think far the 
oppisit, actually.

Anyway, if yall think this discussion doesn't belong here, then I'm willing to cease and desist any further 
posts on this topic; it just shocked me when I saw this.

Again, I never meant to stir up any hostility or anything of such on list. Forgive me, if I did.

Chris.


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list <orca-list-bounces gnome org> On Behalf Of Nolan Darilek
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 1:36 PM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Dear God, I hope this isn't true!

Yes, it is censorship. I'm on this list because I'm curious about Orca
and its continued developments. If we don't censor the Orca list to
discussions about Orca, the woodworking list to discussions about
woodworking, the web RTC list to discussions about web RTC...then what's
the point of any of those lists? This "I'm going to pee in the pool
because it really shouldn't matter to you anyway, and you have the
freedom not to swim in the pool after I've peed in it" argument has
never made any sense to me. If you want the freedom to use any old list
to discuss any old topic, and can't be bothered to use any of the many
other internet forums where such discussions *are* on-topic, then where
am I expected to go if I'd rather discuss Orca and read more messages
than I delete?



On 06/04/2018 12:26 PM, Jace Kattalakis wrote:
As long as the discussion stays civil I don't see a reason why it
should be banned from being discussed here though, I have my own
issues and if anything saying X Y or Z is not allowed is blatant
censorship. If the discussion gets out of hand, sure, but if it
remains civil, I have zero issues discussing it. Besides, nobody is
forcing you to read every single mail thread, right? You can just skip
over the ones you don't feel like taking part in. For instance, I have
the Firefox buttons ones in my inbox, but I'm skipping over those to
get to actual imporant emails. There's no rule stating you absolutely
have to read and/or comment on every single thing on the list.

TL:DR Don't like it? Skip over it and delete the email, or just ignore
said email altogether


On 04/06/18 16:51, Nolan Darilek wrote:
Or Orca, for that matter. Can we please declare it off-topic and end the
discussion on the Orca list? There are massive doomsday threads on
Hacker News and bunches of other sites if you'd like to discuss the
gitpocalypse. Orca is not, nor has ever been officially hosted on
GitHub.


On 06/04/2018 10:45 AM, Will Estes wrote:
No.

It has nothing to do with linux accessibility.

On Monday,  4 June 2018,  5:39 pm +0200, Vojtěch šmiro
<vsmiro seznam cz> wrote:

Hello. Is it very bad news? Means it end of accessibility of linux
systems?

Thanks.

Best regards

Vojta.

José Vilmar Estácio de Souza napsal(a):
Hi.


Unless I am wrong, gnome projects including orca are hosted at
gitlab, not
github.


I also read that github was acquired by MS$.

Thanks.


On 06/04/2018 10:28 AM, Christopher Gilland wrote:
So, I just heard from a very reliable source in the blind
community who
actually directly works for the Microsoft Accessibility team, that
github is being acquired by Microsoft. Please tell me this is a
joke!
What will that do for devs like Joni etc. who need a centralized
place
to host their source code for things like Orca? Will we be much
effected, or is it to early on at this point to really know.

Chris.



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