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Re: [orca-list] planning to return

This is comming to you via Arch, right now using pure alsa, but.....
I did have a bit of trouble a few weeks ago which came in the middle of some sound system trouble. 
I was using the same dmix set-up I have used on arch most of the last few years, and then I started 
experimemnting with some pulse audio recording schemes
to capture audio from an app on the fly, e.g. I am  listening to radio or some other realtime stream, hear 
something I want to record, and fire up a
script to record it.
I had several ugly hard shutdowns due to popwer failure, a charger coming unplugged unbeknownst to me, etc. I 
at first thought my speech-dispatcher issues
were someting sound related, but most of the trouble was SD side. 
I have gone back and forth a couple of times over the years between speech-dispatcher-git fromthe AUR and the 
standard s-d pkg, bvut since I use a voice or
two besides espeak from time to time usually run the sd-git version. I had to deal with a couple of typos and 
another issue that was syntax related, so
being over tired just backed up all my configuration files and reinstalled speech-dispatcher from scratch, 
and all was well. I either have to go dmix, or
change a few settings and gopure pulse since I use speakup more than orca most days to be able to do 
everything like I did a monthago, but for the record I
ran orca with pulse to make sure that worked before going back to my current all alsa setup. Libao worked as 
well before my trouble, but I don't remember if
I tried it since reinstalling SD.
Oh, I had an orca issue as well at the same time caused by leftovers from the orca plug-in system, sops, in 
my orca-customizations file, so it was a
dramatic/traumatic day dealing with this stuff at the same time I was dealing with problems on a couple other 
boxes. 
At the end of the day Linux was all fixable, on the other hand, my only windows installation will need an 
installation disk  I don't have to get it working
again, and of course that will not talk when ever I can borrow one, so I'll need to borrow eyes as well, 
don't give up on Linux just because you need to do
something on windows for a bit. To go even more OT, AIM went dark last month, and thatwas just about the only 
app that I looked forward to using  on
the rare occasion  I booted in to windows.       
BTW, I will  be going back to using pulse some at least soon, but wanted to try a few things with alsa alone 
first.
The pulse recording script was really handy, and with a few more tweaksmight be worth packaging up with an 
optional gui.  
Since I use a very large buffer with mplayer I can usually rewind  and fast forward back and  forth through 
somewhere between a half an hour to as much as
2-3 hours assuming the stream has been playing for that long of course. Actually, it is delicate dealing with 
trying to rewind through near buffer size
chunks of stream, but going back a minute or five to get back to  the beginning of some segment I want to 
record is not usually any trouble at all.
I will take a look at the machine I have running a manjaro based distro in a few days just in case there is 
something different going on there if you remind
me, but at least on a straight arch box you should have all the speech you can  want.
Regards,
   



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     B.H.
   Registerd Linux User 521886


  kendell clark wrote:
Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 06:21:17PM -0600


   Hi

   Wow, you’ve most definitely done your homework! You’ve checked all the
   boxes I would’ve done. You made the display managers speak, and I don’t
   know if I could have managed that. I was about to suggest a mate image. I
   have no objection to compiz as long as it’s accessible, and you wouldn’t
   include it if it weren’t, so fantastic job! I’ve gotta try it, I’ve never
   run a slack based distro. So the iso does speak when installed? If that’s
   the case, then either there is no bug in speech dispatcher and orca, or
   the bug is limited to just antergos and arch based distros. I can’t wait
   to try the iso out when you release it. I’ll probably also subscribe to
   twitter feeds and email lists, if there are any.

   Thanks

   Kendell Clark

    

    

   sent from my windows ultrabook

    

   From: [1]Didier Spaier
   Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 5:47 PM
   To: [2]orca-list gnome org
   Subject: Re: [orca-list] planning to return

    

   Hi Kendell,

    

   Slint is based on Slackware but easier to install and use, including
   package management with dependencies resolutions and update notifications.

    

   Hopefully tomorrow I will publish a big update with a new ISO with
   enhanced a11y (Mate with Compiz and Emerald, better speech handling in
   test as in graphical modes).

    

   Orca is included with espeak-ng and seech-dispatcher, espeakup and espeak
   in text mode, braille enabled in both cases, lightdm and gdm2 speak as
   well.

    

   Several graphical environments are included: KDE (optional), LXDE, MATE,
   XFCE and also light window managers

    

   Help is very welcome to enhance it.

    

   I am the developer, so it should be easy to get in touch with him...

   <didier~at~slint~dot~fr>

   No irc yet but a mailing list:

   http://slint.fr/mailman/listinfo/slint_slint.fr

    

   I am eager to hear from you.

    

   Greetings,

    

   Didier Spaier

    

   Le 31/01/2018 à 00:23, kendell clark a écrit :

   > Hi

   >

   > You know, I’ve never looked much at slackware and distros based on it.
   Nothing against slackwear, but it’s got an intimidating rep. No dependency
   resolution, a few steps above lfs. Probably undeserved by now, I seem to
   remember someone telling me it’s had a good packaging system for a decade,
   so I’ll make a note to have a look. Is it a desktop image, with orca
   included and such? Does it have an irc channel or some way of getting in
   touch with it’s developers? I want to be able to suggest a11y fixes if it
   needs any. More, I want to help get those fixes in, not just ask for
   features. We need to all band together now and give as much help to
   sighted and non sighted devs alike if Linux is to remain the great
   accessible option it is.

   >

   > Thanks

   >

   > Kendell Clark

   >

   >  

   >

   >  

   >

   > sent from my windows ultrabook

   >

   >  

   >

   > *From: *matthew dyer <mailto:ilovecountrymusic483 outlook com>

   > *Sent: *Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:53 AM

   > *To: *kendell clark <mailto:coffeekingms gmail com>

   > *Subject: *RE: [orca-list] planning to return

   >

   >  

   >

   > Kendell,

   >

   >  

   >

   > Have you looked at slint?  Its another Linux distro based on slack wae. 
   You can go to slint.fr for all the info.  Just a thought.

   >

   >  

   >

   > Matthew

   >

   > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
   Windows 10

   >

   >  

   >

   > *From: *kendell clark <mailto:coffeekingms gmail com>

   > *Sent: *Tuesday, January 30, 2018 4:57 AM

   > *To: *orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>

   > *Subject: *Re: [orca-list] planning to return

   >

   > Hi

   >

   > Absolutely I’d be willing to work with the debian community. Actually,
   what I’ll probably do is work with the Linux-a11y organization to improve
   it’s documentation, that way all Linux distros benefit. I’ll also be
   working with individual Linux distros, like antergos, to fix specific
   issues, but will be working for Linux as a whole. It’s what I should’ve
   done from the start, but Linux-a11y is new, and  wasn’t around when I
   started. Debian has great accessibility from what I know, however it does
   need an accessible graphical installer, if it doesn’t already have one.
   The last time I looked at it, which was admittedly when squeeze came out,
   there was only a text setup which used espeak and speakup to install, but
   to you guys credit it does work very well. If possible, and I’m not sure
   if this is or not, a multi desktop image, for all distros not just debian,
   would be great. That way users could choose the desktop they want, and if
   they don’t choose, some logic could be built in

   > to scan the systems hardware and try to pick the best desktop that would
   run well, and has great accessibility. This probably isn’t possible yet,
   but the sky’s the limit.

   >

   > Thanks

   >

   > Kendell Clark

   > 

   > sent from my windows ultrabook

   >

   > *From: *Alex ARNAUD <mailto:alexarnaud hypra fr>

   > *Sent: *Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:46 AM

   > *To: *kendell clark <mailto:coffeekingms gmail com>; orca-list gnome org
   <mailto:orca-list gnome org>

   > *Subject: *Re: [orca-list] planning to return

   >

   > Le 30/01/2018 à 08:38, kendell clark a écrit :

   >

   >> Hi all

   > 

   >> Since there is currently a bug in speech-dispatcher or orca, I’m not

   >> sure which, which prevents orca from speaking in antergos, I am on

   >> windows only. For now. But as soon as this bug is fixed, I will install

   >> Linux and switch to using it. I will probably continue to use windows

   >> part time as a dual boot setup, but I want to start working with the

   >> Linux open source community once again. I’m not sure what I’ll do yet,

   >> but I plan to begin maintaining my espeak fixed repository again, and
   if

   >> the antergos people will allow it, I want to help antergos get better.

   >> They have integrated a11y into their installer, which is great, but I

   >> want to help them add the gconf stuff necessary to make orca start on

   >> desktop startup, which it currently doesn’t do, and add the keyboard

   >> shortcut to start and stop it, which is not set up by default. I’d also

   >> like to become the maintainer or at least the assistant maintainer of

   >> the US English language for espeak ng, although I’m not sure if that

   >> will ever happen. I vanished for a couple of months around Christmas
   but

   >> my new years resolution was to begin using open source again after

   >> trying to go windows only. It didn’t work out so well lol, although I
   am

   >> helping storm get his tintin pack working in windows Linux emulation

   >> mode, which is why I still must use windows.

   >> 

   >> Thanks

    

   > Hi Kendell,

   > 

   > It's a great news to know you will be back.

   >

   > It could be great if we could collaborate with you to make Debian

   > better. We've a important and really active accessibility team.

   > We'll be extremely happy to get feedback from you.

   >

   > If you expect to use a rolling release operating system you could use

   > Debian testing "buster".

   >

   > Best regards.

   > --

   > Alex ARNAUD

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