Re: [orca-list] When opening a folder with lot of files in it withOrca, it is very slow.

[Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <jpmengual hypra fr>]

Hi Fernando,

Le 20/04/2018 à 15:12, Fernando Botelho a écrit :
> Sorry, so currently there is no bounty or crowd-funding service which we
> could use?

Yes, a Bounty is possible. But I am not sure a GTK dev would accept to
work through this mechanism. All the more as it is an accessibility bug,
so few people have skills and want to acquire them.


We are asking wether a MATE dev could accept to work about such problem
if we open a Bounty.


> Also, what about the non-profit behind Hypra: Can't you accept donations
> with this bug in mind?

Yes we can accept such donations indeed. As fixing the bug is a high
task and we would employ a dev (Sam) and a tester in France, I think
such work would represent about 600 euros for us.

We also can organize the collect and start working when the amount
reaches the sum, informing about the increasing each week for instance.


> Finally, can those donations be made via PayPal and what would be the
> address?

Paypal no, we do not have any account. But we can accept transfers bank
via our IBAN.

Best regards

> Fernando
>
>
>
> On 04/20/2018 04:42 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> > Le 20/04/2018 à 07:52, Krishnakant Mane a écrit :
> > > Proud funding will be a better option or bounty is another option.
> > That is what Hypra is doing, but via our own. But platforms filter
> > projects and refuse ours given that they refuse social impact and prefer
> > buzz projects, with beautiful figures tables, and submit projects to
> > people after a financial analysis incompatible with our current status.
> >
> > > I also believe that such important work should be paid because it will
> > > bring in a sence of commertial commitment as well as some money for
> > > those who will be dedicating their time for this.
> > >
> > > It is an important bug and must be solved.
> > Let 's hope we will have success.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > > By the way I am now on Ubuntu 17.10 with Mate and the performance with
> > > Orca is pretty fast.
> > >
> > > The only exception is when a folder contains more than 500 files and
> > > folders (not usual for me ) and with inbox having more than 5000 emails
> > > (pretty usual on my professional mail ).
> > >
> > > This too is not a very harsh irritant but gives a break to my otherwise
> > > fast paced computing using keyboard.
> > >
> > > happy hacking.
> > >
> > > Krishnakant.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Monday 16 April 2018 06:02 PM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> > > > Hello kendell,
> > > >
> > > > The bug has been reported here:
> > > > https://github.com/mate-desktop/caja/issues/957
> > > >
> > > > As it seems complicated to tackle, the only solution for fixing such
> > > > bugs should be to collect funds. My personal opinion is that spending
> > > > time to ping them doesn't work on such things.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Alex.
> > > >
> > > > Le 15/04/2018 à 04:27, kendell clark a écrit :
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > Should I file an issue against caja on GitHub? Hypra might want to
> > > > > follow up with the devs since you guys are much better at coding for
> > > > > issues than I am, but if it is indeed a custom widget than either
> > > > > they need to fix the widget or, maybe easier, just switch to using
> > > > > gtk3’s standard icon widget. Nautilus has broken more than just
> > > > > desktop icons, it also has some odd bugs. Orca reports “nautilus
> > > > > link” for lots of files but nautilus won’t open these files, and this
> > > > > is in gnome 3.28, so that might need to be investigated and fixed. I
> > > > > think your idea of a team of bug filers is a great one. Definitely we
> > > > > should have some people from hypra, some from the various distros,
> > > > > like maybe Samuel from Debian, and anyone from the ubuntu mate
> > > > > community, maybe the developer martin wimpress, to track down ubuntu
> > > > > specific patches and bugs, and believe me there are some.  Definitely
> > > > > some from other distros, like antergos, arch, manjaro, the slint
> > > > > developer, and others. The number of issues seems to be steadily
> > > > > growing and most of them are not orca bugs directly, and so joanie
> > > > > shouldn’t be the only one who can code well enough to fix them. She
> > > > > already has to hear a lot more of this or that bug is exasperating
> > > > > than she should have to, and if it’s not an orca bug   it isn’t her
> > > > > job to fix it. She will usually help anyway, since she’s good like
> > > > > that but that’s more work she has to do. In my own opinion it’s the
> > > > > users that should help file the bugs and ensure the devs have what
> > > > > they need to fix them. The Linux a11y project can probably help in
> > > > > this. I think a good starting point would be to improve the
> > > > > accessibility docs so that non developers can look at them and
> > > > > understand them. Since there’s already a mumble and irc
> > > > > infrastructure in place, we should start using it. I knew about the
> > > > > irc, but not about mumble.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Kendell Clark
> > > > >
> > > > > *From: *Alex ARNAUD <mailto:alexarnaud hypra fr>
> > > > > *Sent: *Saturday, April 14, 2018 3:24 PM
> > > > > *To: *Joanmarie Diggs <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>;
> > > > > Fernando Botelho F123 org <mailto:Fernando Botelho F123 org>
> > > > > *Cc: *orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>
> > > > > *Subject: *Re: [orca-list] When opening a folder with lot of files in
> > > > > it withOrca, it is very slow.
> > > > >
> > > > > Le 10/04/2018 à 22:04, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > >   > We want the bogus name-change events to stop being emitted for the
> > > > > icon
> > > > >
> > > > >   > view. Orca is being flooded with these. This presumably should be
> > > > > fixed
> > > > >
> > > > >   > in Gtk. I think Hypra filed an issue somewhere....
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a bug we've in Caja icon implementation because it's a custom
> > > > >
> > > > > widget. It was the same on Nautilus until 3.28 where they has
> > > > > decided to
> > > > >
> > > > > move on the GTK Widget but they has broken desktop icon.
> > > > >
> > > > > For now, I don't find where the source code should be for this
> > > > >
> > > > > particular behavior.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex.
> > > > >
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