Re: [orca-list] Rearranging Thunderbird columns

["B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

Unless something has changed in the last couple or three years this can not be done. It was possible I have 
been told, but not easy with one or more 
windows screenreaders, but I never got around to experimenting to see how reliable and accessible l it was 
and I assume still is as I like t-bird's data 
ordering, and while I sometimes do support a windows user, I use windows on average about once a year  to do 
something that I can not do well if at all 
in Liux, (sometimes another time or two to look at some software that I've heard about, update everything so 
I don't have to bother with this so much  
when I really do want or need to use that OS, or to refresh my memory about something I am trying to help 
someone with)...
It would be done with simulated mouse clicks, but as I recall one is focusing on what appears to be white 
space between the columns. 
I don't think orca could do this on its own, but perhaps ocr-desktop could make this task doable for us blind 
Linux folk. 
If you have not heard about ocr-desktop, it is a nice little app that works a bit like the NVEDA or jaws OCR 
add-ons. 
OCR-desktop isn't an orca extension or plug-in, but it is made for use with orca. You just take a snapshot of 
your window, and then can read and or 
interact with the text that has been convertedl with the same ocr engine that the nvda plug-in uses. 
The program's developer is an active list member, so perhaps he can comment on whether or not he thinks the 
column reordering is doable. 
I think that ocr-desktop has some drag and drop functionality now, but maybe I dreamed this. It is a great 
little program, but I've not used it all that 
much and am not an expert in its use.
I do not think I have the latest OCR desktop on this vinux box, not even sure I have it here at all now, but 
I do keep it up to date on my arch-linuc 
machine, so I'll try and remember to take a quick look if I stay awake long enough to get around  to bootinig 
in to arch before I sleep.
Hopefully someone else has more experience with ocr-desktop and the time to experiment a bit. If you are a 
mouse user perhaps orca gives enoug feedback 
to guide you to the column(s) you want to use. I never really got the hang of touchpad and mouse use, but I 
bet someone who regularly used a mouse and 
then lost site could do this with out too much frustration, well better said I guess, not sure enough about 
it to be in to betting...lol.
Good luck, and if I figure anything out I'll post again.
  
 


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     B.H.
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  Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 06:46:26PM -0400

>    
>    I'm honestly not a huge fan of Thunderbird displaying the subject before
>    the sender name.
>     
>    Is there a way I can accessibly and reliably without sighted help drag
>    those columns around, or somehow reorder them? I'd rather it be like
>    Outlook, where it's read status like unread, read, etc, then the sender's
>    name, then finally the subject, rather than subject, then user's name.
>     
>    Chris.

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