Re: [orca-list] Fwd: Emacspeak

[Krishnakant <krmane openmailbox org>]

Just wish to add a bit more to this.

Basically Orca is great with all that is GUI and I use it for most of my 
work.

But I am using Emacs with Emacspeak exclusively for programming.

Now I am also contemplating using it for emails.

I find it extremely accessible and I never use menu bar.

Of course with Orca you will get access to menu bar, but some times in 
some cases Orca and Emacspeak will speak together if Orca is kept on.

For example the command dialog which you get by pressing alt + x in Emacs.

I have blogged my experience with Emacs on 
www.digitallyfreeblog.wordpress.com where you will get lot of conceptual 
knowledge which you absolutely need.

Happy hacking.

Krishnakant.


On Monday 24 July 2017 04:50 AM, Will Estes wrote:
> Also, use speechd-el as it is much more in tune with how emacs works and tries to add as little as possible 
> on top rather than loading a bunch of random things that you probably don't want.
>
> You do get a lot of benefit from having text-to-speech happen "inside" emacs as there's a lot of contextual 
> information beyond what is happening on the screen.
>
> On Sunday, 23 July 2017,  7:09 pm -0400, Austin Seraphin <austin austinseraphin com> wrote:
>
> > I use Emacs in the terminal with Orca all the time. I start it with the
> > -nw command line option for no windowing system, then go from there. I
> > also use the EVIL package to give it VIM like bindings, which I prefer.
> >
> >
> > On 07/10/2017 10:51 AM, Alan Ghelardi wrote:
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > >
> > > In order to access the Emacs's menubar you would need to use Orca
> > > along with Emacspeak, since the later cannot read these graphical
> > > components. However, this is awkward and in fact, goes against the
> > > philosophy of Emacs/Emacspeak. When using Emacs you don't need to have
> > > access to the menubar, toolbar and other analogous visual resources
> > > (in fact, even sighted Emacs advanced users do not use them), because
> > > Emacs is originally a terminal editor and absolutely everything is
> > > accessible by keybindings (keystrokes in the Emacs terminology). By
> > > the way, this characteristic (the independence from a GUI) is one of
> > > the main advantages that Emacs/Emacspeak offers to blind users.
> > >
> > >
> > > I suggest that you start studying the main keybindings of
> > > Emacs/Emacspeak in order to get more acquainted with these concepts.
> > > With a bit of pracctice you will understand why you do not need to use
> > > the menubar. I recomend that you start with the Emacs tutorial. For
> > > such, open Emacs and press C-h t. In the Emacs terminology, C means
> > > Control. The keybinding C-h t, means press Control and h
> > > simultaneously, drops the combination and press t. This will open the
> > > Emacs tutorial. Follow the steps in this tutorial and you will learn
> > > the main keybindings for reading text, switching between buffers,
> > > windows and so forth.
> > >
> > >
> > > One thing very useful in the Emacs is its capability of being self
> > > explanatory. In another words you can use Emacs for learning about
> > > Emacs. For example, there are several keybindings that describe other
> > > keybindings. Press C-h k and after, press C-h t. You will hear
> > > Emacspeak reading a help content open in a separate window. In this
> > > case, Emacs will describe the keybinding C-h t (the same that I
> > > indicated previously to open the Emacs tutorial).
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> > >
> > > Alan Ghelardi
> > >
> > >
> > > On 07/10/2017 10:05 AM, ronak shah wrote:
> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > From: "ronak shah" <ronakshah 26397 gmail com
> > > > <mailto:ronakshah 26397 gmail com>>
> > > > Date: Jul 10, 2017 9:22 AM
> > > > Subject: Emacspeak
> > > > To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs nfbnet org
> > > > <mailto:nfbcs nfbnet org>>
> > > > Cc:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all
> > > > I have started to use Emacs with emacspeak but am not able to
> > > > navigate afficiantly
> > > > For eg
> > > > The menu bar is not accessible with emacspeak and hence I am a little
> > > > stranded in a no man's  land.
> > > > Please let me know how to get use to it
> > > > also is VIM better with orca because I would like to use 1 screen
> > > > reader and 1 editer for everything preferablely
> > > >
> > > > Anything on ide will be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > Kind regards
> > > > Ron
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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